Just to add, they bloom in late summer when there isn't alot of other blooming going on. I saw them blooming on Martin Hill and honeybees were very busy on them.

Theres more about them thats appealing and not appealing. That they have very striking berries is a handsome feature thats not so evident untl they are older and theres more of them. “More of them” because they sucker which may appeal to you or not. The planting i saw was in shade and it was loaded with small dark berries that contrasted beautifully with a little light in the background. With those thorns a suckering group would be deterrent to unwelcome visitors at a larger property’s perimeter. So if its growing in a place where you want continued access or dont want a thicket of anything, definitely give thought to relocating or removing it. I dont think it has striking fall color.

The crew who is putting in a sewer line in The abbuting easment weedwacked mine yesterday. I think it could grow back from a piece of root, but I want see if can rescue a hunk of the mother plant.

For some reason houzz wants a reply before i ca post. ?

My thinking about this and the Asian one is - they aren't quite spectacular enough to make up for the thorns AND running around. I could deal with either - not both!

My grove is currently blooming in northern Virginia. The number of pollinators it attracts is insane. A nearby patch of mountain mint is deserted because all the insects are on the devil's walking stick.