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Evergreen for porch planters

2 years ago

I’m looking for an evergreen that will survive in large planters on either side of the front door.


It is the south/southwest side of the house. The area is shaded by a large birch tree all summer and then gets full winter sun with harsh cold wind when the birch loses its leaves.


Is there any plant that would work in this location? I previously had boxwoods that did not make it.

Comments (12)

  • 2 years ago

    Where do you live? Not zone but location. That info is critical to making any suggestions. Also, how big are the planters?

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    @gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

    Of course! I live in southern Ontario, Canada. The planters are approx 18” x 18” x 36”.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Do you have a picture?

    Is 36" the height or the length? It sounds as if the soil in these containers could freeze in winter. Does it?

  • 2 years ago
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    @floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

    Pictured are two dwarf alberta spruce not planted that I’ve realized won’t do well here.

  • 2 years ago

    I’m not sure you’ll have much luck leaving them out over the winter in your location, esp if temps go below 10’ F in winter. After a few hard freezes, you could overwinter your containers in an unheated garage, but they would still need to be watered every few weeks until temps get back above freezing and you can put them out again. Or you could dig a hole in your yard and plop your container inside the hole over the winter, mulching good to add extra protection.

    If you really want to leave them in place, you could always experiment with trying to add different forms of insulation inside your containers to better protect the roots, but you’re risking having to potentially replace your plants each year with this route.

    Robyn Emsley thanked Old House Restorer
  • 2 years ago

    I've seen dwarf alberta spruce survive in containers locally, but not reliably. Those were part of the decor for sidewalk dining areas, so reasonably sunny all year.

    The biggest problem you are going to have with an evergreen is that they require access to liquid water all year. Ice doesn't count. So if the containers freeze solid for enough time, the plants are literally toast. Given the sun and wind in this location, that time may not be very long.

    Robyn Emsley thanked mad_gallica (z5 Eastern NY)
  • 2 years ago

    It's a tough ask. Very few plants will tolerate that exposure in winter in a container, as there is considerable risk of root damage from the ambient air temps surrounding the container. They will be far colder than anything the plant would experience in the ground.

    So the possibilities are limited. Both dwarf Alberta spruce or Thuja occidentalis (American arborvitae) are potential choices. Of the two, the arbs are somewhat more shade tolerant. And can be found in sculpted or sheared forms for added aesthetic interest.

    Robyn Emsley thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 2 years ago

    I complimented my neighbor on her evergreens in planters beside her door. She laughed and said they were fake. They certainly looked very real, even up close.

  • 2 years ago

    It is seeming like fake may be a good choice in this case! Thanks all.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Maybe just commission a pair of ornamental metal sculptural supports to grow summer plants on but leave bare over winter. Fake plants are...bizarre. Better to work within your climate's natural limitations and embrace them.

    Robyn Emsley thanked HU-618169007
  • 2 years ago

    Looking again at your picture, I hope you don't mind me saying that I think the planters would look better placed each side of the doorway rather than each side of the door. At present they are not symmetrical with the entrance. You'd need to get a door mat that went across the whole doorway, rather than just in front of the door itself. You might also need to put something under the right hand one since the decking doesn't appear to extend far enough to support it.

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