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Window Grid Help

Getting replacement windows and have gone back and forth on grid design for months. Have lost my mind. We live in LA, so high home prices but neighborhood not so nice (i.e., even in $2M new builds, grids are being placed within the glass).


Originally, was attempting to simplify grids for a slightly more modern look, but was struggling with the math to make the shapes work; ultimately determined with the plantation shutters it caused more visual issues to combine that look with the busy shutters.


Now contemplating: (1) grids only on top half; (2) top row only; (3) sticking with our full grids.


Will be simulated divided light grids (currently we have within glass grids).


If (1), we have some fairly wide sliders (north; upstairs); not sure if we need to convert those to two double hung (presumably raises costs a lot) or you can just put grids without the sash (essentially an artificial sash); and this may/will condense the grid pattern on some windows which is not really what I am after.


If (2), does this look too old fashioned? I've added some photos of the same house with these windows. They did top half on the east elevation, I think I would just stick with one row up there. and sliders.


If (3), easy, "boring" perhaps and slightly more expensive I assume (but no stress in getting in wrong).






A house like ours with mostly top-line only.






Comments (15)

  • last year

    high home prices but neighborhood not so nice (i.e., even in $2M new builds, grids are being placed within the glass)


    Are the grids a security feature somehow? If not, then I'd probably go with no grids on that style of house.

    Katherine McClure thanked pricklypearcactus
  • last year

    " There is nothing at all traditional about your house. Skip the grids completely "


    Agree completely. No Grids.


    " Are the grids a security feature somehow? "


    No they are hollow pieces of rectangular shaped aluminum between the glass simulating divided lites.

    Katherine McClure thanked millworkman
  • last year

    With your blinds and plantation shutters the grids just create visual chaos. I would skip the grids.

    Katherine McClure thanked chispa
  • last year

    Understand all the feedback and a number of houses like mine have switched to non-grid windows, probably 50/50, but in almost all instances, it does not improve the look. They look cheaper and like an apartment building. The shutters help that fight the empty look for sure, but I strongly feel grids of some sort ultimatelty add charm and interest here. They are very popular here both in my immediate area and in the fancier neighborhoods including on new builds.

  • last year

    No muntins, all windows, even the arched one.

    Katherine McClure thanked User
  • last year

    I’m also in CA but haven’t noticed grids vs none in new builds. I think you should go with what appeals to you. I do notice the popularity of plantation shutters here. No change in that in years. Our ranch style home (built in 1956) has the original windows with grids and plantation shutters throughout. Never really gave it much thought.

    Katherine McClure thanked chloebud
  • last year

    The architectural design quality is low. You'll have to do more to up that if you want to show some design value. No grids and you can increase the window dimensions to add architectural character. The windows on the rear can come down to get rid of the horizontal look. The half circle can be a single fixed and the two below one single fixed. You'll stand out above the other examples.

    Katherine McClure thanked dan1888
  • last year

    Thanks everyone! I’m in Los Angeles (coastal area) and drove around again today and almost all new builds that are not super modern have grids of some sort (generally simpler than mine). And, no point sadly in investing money in making the house architecturally more appealing. I’ve owned the home for ten years already, will probably hang on to it as a rental or for family use, but it is shockingly already one of the nicer homes on the block, so zero return potential. It will be what it is and have remodeled kitchen and all bathrooms in past few years and layout is already way better than most houses here (and why i booght it) and you will laugh/cry to know that our backyard is also “large”. Sigh. Will stop worrying about this house and move on mentally to the next! Thank you again!




  • last year

    You could consider horizontal muntins only. It's a more modern look without going all the way to no muntins at all.

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    last year

    I dislike grids on any home except colonial or very traditional so why not just forget them adn the bonus is they are not right in the place where you want to lokk out and show us your house .

  • last year

    Here's your house with horizontal muntins only


    This has some precedence in LA in the houses of Paul Williams which were often a mix of traditional and contemporary


    Katherine McClure thanked palimpsest
  • last year
    last modified: last year

    Spanish style or Spanish inspired houses in LA tend to have the horizontal muntins.

    Just do what you like, which you seem to be arguing for anyway!!

    Never heard of someone not buying a house because it had or didn't have muntins, or they were the wrong number.

    Katherine McClure thanked chispa
  • last year

    Thank you @chipsa and totally fair I certainly have a point of view. in my defense, i didn't ask if grids or no grids was better a better route as yes i had determined already that i wanted grids. I was looking for input on three specific grid options. oh well! ill accept my terrible taste and move on with my bad decisions ;)

  • last year

    Double-hung windows are inefficient (because of their meeting rails) and sliders are even worse. Install casement windows wherever possible and skip the grids which add cost and block the views. Awning windows are also great as they can be left open in sloppy weather. Find windows that meet the Energy Star South-Central Climate Zone Window Criteria and consider ENERGY STAR Most Efficient 2024 Windows. We installed Enerlux fiberglass windows which have proven not only energy efficient but block the noise...even the beep-beep-beep of trash trucks.