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Non-blinding light bulbs?

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Has anyone found lightbulbs that truly give a warm old-fashioned light? Everything Ive tried promises ”warm and relaxing” but in reality is cold and heartless, as bright as a bolt of lightning.

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    Bulbs that are 2700K degrees are the same as what used to be standard incandescent. Higher numbers - 3000K up to 5000K- seem incrementally more blue to stark white.

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    Dedtired, for where? I've resorted to a pink bulb that gives soft but not pink light in the pendant over the breakfast table. At my height, seated to eat, the light is directly in my eyes. And, I really dislike the fixture but replacing it looks like a ceiling repair will be required with the way its wired and hung - so many of the styles would not be centered over my table.

    I have a local electrician on the hunt for an answer for me.

    Light bulb shopping used to be so easy. Sigh.

    ETA: Darn, I just looked and they appear to have been discontinued with no suggested replacements. Making my tip useless. I have three in the pantry on a shelf, hopefully they will last me until I can replace the pendant and its base.

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    The GE Relax bulbs are the closest I've found, but nothing beats the old incandescents, alas.

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    Its for a living room lamp. Bookwoman, i agree no matter what the box says, the newer lightbulbs just dont compare to the old ones. I wish i had hoarded them.

    morz8, pink is an i teresting thought. Fortunately my kitchen lights are on a dimmer, so i just turn them down a bit.

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    seagrass_gw Cape Cod


    I've been happy with the Philips LED Basic Frosted Dimmable A19 Lightbulb - Eye Comfort Technology - 450 Lumen - Soft White (2700K) - 6.5 W=40 W - E26 Base - Indoor (Pack of 4)


    From big A for lamps in our living room.

    dedtired thanked HU-753479426
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    I strongly detest the new lightbulbs . I use as much low level lighting by way of lamps, as I can. I do things in darkness and by the light of small night lights as much as possible.

    Hate them! hate them! hate them!

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    I don't think you can buy CFLs anymore either, is that right? I remember when "they" wanted us to replace all the bulbs with CFL because they were supposed to be so fabulous for energy conservation, now you cannot even buy them. Feels like we are just puppets being made to do what "they" want us to do. UGH!

    dedtired thanked arkansas girl
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    This is what I am using now. I like them. They are the closet I have found to the old lightbulbs. They also come in 75 and 60 watt eq.

    https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Relax-100-Watt-EQ-A19-Soft-White-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5002209357

    ETA: I do use the GE Daylight bulbs in my windowless bathrooms. The do make a very gright daylight look.

    dedtired thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
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    I hate LEDS, but it seems that's all that's available now. LEDs buzz with some dimmers (exact same recessed bulbs buzz with exact same dimmers in different parts of my house - WTF!), they flicker sometimes, and the light is somehow not as pleasing as the old incandescents or halogens, and they dim to white -- it's a dull, saddening dim that definitely affects my mood negatively.


    I don't have anything higher than 3000K in my house, which is on the warm end of things but not as warm as 2700K. K = Kelvins, which is a measure of color temperature; this is NOT the same as lumens, which is a measure of the light output. You can light up a kitchen like an operating room with 3000K bulbs if the lumens are high enough. So don't get those two measurements confused -- they're important when you're choosing bulbs.


    My table lamps have 3000 K LED bulbs, they're fine. The 3-way bulb has higher lumens in my home office table lamp, since I do need more light when I'm working at my desk. The bedroom lamps just have regular 3000K LEDs. Those lamps have tiffany-style shades, so that softens the light; if the shades were different I might consider 2700K


    I solved the dimming problem with the recessed in the main area with Philips warm-glow LED bulbs (forget exactly what they're called, but they dim to a warm light, not that dull, depressed white dim). These are for traditional can lights. My brother told me somebody came out with warm-dim integrated LED recessed units, but I'm still waiting for him to send me the ones he saw -- I might change out some of the integrated ones I have in the bedrooms for these. I rarely put on the overheads in the bedroom -- they're just there because you're "supposed" to have something. But I would switch them out if what he told me turns out to be correct.


    I solved the buzzing problem in my hallway by buying halogen bulbs while I could still get them. I don't turn these lights on too often, so my stock should last a while (I hope). Will have to figure out what to do when I do run out, all my dimmers and switchplates are the same throughout the house. Even the electrician couldn't figure out why the same bulbs on the same dimmer unit buzzed while they don't in the rest of the house.


    Yes, I HATE LEDs!!


    Although, I will concede that I've yet to change an LED bulb in the overheads, so at least there's that positive.

    dedtired thanked porkchop_z5b_MI
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    I'm generally satisfied with 2700 bulbs. I don't even like 3000 for the reasons you describe except maybe for a bathroom vanity. My favorite bulb now is the Tapo wi-fi bulb. I got them mainly for the ability to manage the timer remotely for the house I'm away for the winter/summer. But the huge bonus I wasn't expecting is the ability to dim the bulbs on a 1-100% scale - every lamp even better than a 3-way. You do have to run the bulbs from a phone app (or Alexa/Google Home) but I have most of them on a timer that uses sunrise/sunset or time of day to turn on/off. So I only use the app a couple times a day if I want to adjust or turn off early. Also purchased from the AStore.

    Tapo TP-Link Smart Light Bulbs, 800 Lumens (60W Equivalent), 2700K Soft Warm White LED Bulb, Dimmable, Compatible with Alexa and Google Home, No Hub Required, A19 E26, L510E (4-Pack)

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    i agree no matter what the box says, the newer lightbulbs just dont compare to the old ones. I wish i had hoarded them.


    I seem to recall, way back, a certain someone, whose name almost rhymes with ...Galveston0704, strategically hoarding the old bulbs. Ded, you gotta hoodie? Fake nose and glasses? We could swing by when we are down South and have ourselves a look-see.

    dedtired thanked mtnrdredux_gw
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    All my lamps (dislike overhead lighting) now have Philips Hue smart LED lights in soft white. I'm fussy about the temperature of lights and find these plenty warm. Plus Alexa and/or the app can control them from anywhere.

    dedtired thanked Bunny
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    I'm an incandescent hoarder - several boxes of 40, 60 and 100 watt. At the time I bought them the only LED bulbs available had that horrible bright, blue-white glare.

    dedtired thanked 3katz4me
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    Since I found the GE LED's. I actually like the fact of how long they last. I still have some CFL's, but I do not like them as well as the LED;s.

    dedtired thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
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    The original point of the bulb change was to save energy. CFL's saved a lot of energy but have mercury, Bad if they break and of course LED's save an enormous amount of energy but the trade off is light quality, They really last though. My light fixtures in my main rooms have glass shades that give a nice warm glow so I am good unless I use a lamp.

    patriciae

    dedtired thanked HU-279332973
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    Porkchop_mkx3, you might have a mismatch between your brand/model of LEDs and the brand/model of your dimmers. That is what caused some problem with my LED kitchen ceiling units (which I still love after 11 years) when I first installed them. I don't recall the exact problem now, but it was something like yours - buzzing or flickering. I went to the Lutron website and found that the company had /still has a chart to match up the model of the LED lighting product with the correct dimmer. Oddly, the dimmer I put in first was labeled "for LEDs" but the correct one wasn't - and the second, correct one has worked perfectly since.

    I use 3000K LED everywhere, in various wattages, now - it was CFLs that I never particularly liked. I see better with the LEDs. When I first tried LEDs, when they seemed to only come in 2700k or 5000k, I never thought that the 2700k ones cast light as far as the equivalent incandescents did. The current 3000ks are fine.

    dedtired thanked raee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio
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    I changed all bulbs in my house more than 5 years ago to daylight LED except a few that are seldom used. Lighting color now is sickly yellow in comparison when I visit friends and family who have other types.

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    I really like LED bulbs. But Daylight 5000 is harsh. 2700 or 3000 is what we prefer. Some rated as 60 watt replacements aren't bright enough. 60 watt equivalent s/b 800 lumens. And 75 w equiv s/b >= 1200 lumens.

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    I like the daylight 5000 the brighter the better. When I see the older ones they appear yellow to me and I don't like that.

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    I saw the writing on the wall when they said they were not really banning incandescent bulbs. Sure they weren't. LOL So, like 3katz4me I stocked up. I also stocked up on a few extra lamp wiring kits and ceiling fixtures. I use LED or florescent lighting in some areas, like the garage and the shower fan but living areas are all incandescent.

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    You can still buy incandescent candelabra bulbs, as well as 3-way bulbs, thankfully.

    dedtired thanked Bookwoman
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    I hoarded some and have a bunch of incandescent 60W candelabra bulbs left. I've run out of the standard bulbs for lamps and my last 3-way 50-100-150 burned out two months ago. I found an LED replacement that is ok.

    For me the main difference is that an incandescent bulb glowed from all direction and the LED ones have a large plastic "funnel", so they only glow from the top, which doesn't look as good when used in a table lamp. The "funnel" stops the light from shining downwards.

    dedtired thanked chispa
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    If I understand, you're talking about bulbs that look like a scoop of ice cream sitting on a cone? There are LED bulbs that aren't like that and shine downward like the old kind do.

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    "Porkchop_mkx3, you might have a mismatch between your brand/model of LEDs and the brand/model of your dimmers."


    They're the exact same fixtures, exact same bulbs, and exact same dimmers -- some buzz, some don't. That is the mystery. If there was incompatibility, they would all buzz.

    dedtired thanked porkchop_z5b_MI
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    We also hoarded 😂. Neither of us lije the bright white lights. Many are too harsh and the light is fake looking.

    dedtired thanked Tina Marie
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    I think Annie’s onto something with her suggestion about the lamp shade. Its white. I think a softer color would help with the color of the bulb.

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    Chispa, the GE bulbs do not look like that. They look like a regular light bulb .

    Relax HD 100-Watt EQ A19 Soft White Medium Base (e-26) Dimmable LED General Purpose Light Bulb (2-Pack) https://www.lowes.com/pd/GE-Relax-100-Watt-EQ-A19-Soft-White-Dimmable-LED-Light-Bulb-2-Pack/5002209357

    dedtired thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
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    Yes - the shade can make a big difference.

    dedtired thanked 3katz4me
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    Sherry, the bulb in your link appears to have the ice cream scoop on top of a cone appearance. Where only the part on top and not the cone part illuminate. There are others more traditional in light emitting.

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    IDK how many loose, out-of-carton LED bulbs I have that do not show a watt equivalent ON the bulb. Is there a 'table' for 40W, 60W, 75W, 100W? I can't tell if they are dimmable either. (Would I damage something by trying a non-dimmable 60W where I need one that will dim? I suspect it just won't dim, but I don't want to damage a socket or circuit.)

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    I'm one who loves LED lights. I buy the so-called soft light which is plenty bright for me. They don't last as long as they are claimed to (no 7 years), but they last way, way longer than the incancescent lights did. I do not enjoy getting up on a tall ladder to change light bulbs these days.

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    Elmer, no.

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    My mother’s house built in 1970-1972 has been in process of remodel & refresh over the past couple months. Daylight LED in-ceiling everywhere except the two spare bedrooms which are soft white on the ceiling fans.




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    A lot of LED light fixtures now have the option to adjust the color temperature, and so you can switch from 2700 to 3000 to 5000 and get the color you want when you want it. This was never an option with regular incandescent lighting.

    If I have to pick one color, I choose 3000 - I do not like yellow light, although I've used pink light bulbs in the past in my bedroom. They did make it look a bit like a bordello, however.

    dedtired thanked Lars
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    Reference that the pillow case on the L-shaped contour pillow in the 3rd photo is pure white ... but doesn't present as such due to the lighting.

    The difference was immediately apparent in the color tone of white toilet paper when the bulbs were changed in my bathrooms.