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kitchen remodel thoughts

9 months ago

Remodeling the kitchen from a 1970 small dark kitchen to a larger one took out a wall and raise the ceiling) with white and walnut cabinets with a modern euro vibe.

FYI The design render has the island a little darker than reality

Still deciding on counters and backsplash.

What do people think?

The red table pic is the before.

Comments (10)

  • 9 months ago

    is the island countertop in place already ?

  • 9 months ago

    Nope, still in progress.

  • 9 months ago

    My immediate thought is to cut two feet from the island in order to have space to pull the dining set away from the windows, then add wiring for a chandelier over the center of the table. I think this would allow a more natural traffic from the Mudroom door to the opposite side of the island.



  • 9 months ago

    If you can change things I might consider moving the mudroom door by the entry and flipping the whole thing.

  • 9 months ago

    Chopping the island by 24” is one of the things we’re considering. I’ve got the floor taped where the island will be and it is a bit of a trek around the end.

  • PRO
    9 months ago

    The island is too long and skinny, and it’s a barrier. I also would not want the mud room door between the main work zone and the wall oven. I would swap the cooktop for a range, then the wall oven becomes backup. Shorten the island. Is there any possibility to remove a portion of the family room wall? The island would look a lot better and function better if it were deeper. A 2’ deep island always looks awkward to me, especially with a sink. Re your materials, it’s hard to make any suggestions if you don’t show the items you’ve already chosen.

  • 9 months ago

    We want to keep the great room and kitchen areas separate- so taking a wall out between isn’t what we’re looking for (it was discussed).

    As for the long skinny island - we had one like this at our last house (not quite as long) and it also had a wider seating area towards the end opposite the sink. In 22 years at that house people sat at it exactly 3 times. So having an island with seating is at the bottom of our needs / wish list. This kitchen is wider than my last so we have room to have spacious walkways on both sides - the old kitchen couldn’t have two people walk past each other without rubbing body parts. So the wider walk ways are more functional to me than a wider island. This config makes me think of a galley kitchen in function.

    With that said, the length is too long. I was thinking the oven needed a landing spot directly in front of it, but I think chopping the island by 24” would still be close enough and would make it less of a barrier from the mudroom to the other side of the island to get to the rest of the house without walking through the work space.

    Say more about the oven on the other side of the mudroom door? It’s not like one stands at the oven to work - it’s a put in or take out thing. It may hinder traffic for a moment or two but that seems trivial. What am I missing?

  • 9 months ago

    I’d cut the island in half. If people come in through the mudroom, to get to their rooms, they’ll either walk through the main work zone of the kitchen or need to walk all the way around the island. I’d also rather not have the kitchen table pushed against the wall like that.

  • 9 months ago
    last modified: 9 months ago

    I'd consider this:

    • Move the Mudroom door that leads to the rest of the home to the far left
    • Move the Kitchen to where you have the table (which will not fit in the space shown if you also have those blue cabinets)
    • Move the table to the far left where the kitchen used to be


    If you can't or aren't willing to switch the table & Kitchen, then I would increase your aisle to at least 54" b/c you will now have a lot of traffic going through that aisle b/w the range and the island, which means someone cooking/prepping/cleaning up will have to dodge people coming/going from/to the Mudroom and, I assume, the basement. (People will likely try to go through the main working area of the Kitchen to get to the bedrooms b/c it's the shortest distance -- people tend to take the shortest distance b/w two points, regardless of how inconvenient it might be for others!)


    Honestly? I'm sorry, but this is not a good layout.


    FYI...right now, dirty dishes/messes will be on display to the Great Room b/c they're in the island in front of the door to the Great Room. They will also be on display somewhat to anyone entering your home from the Foyer. Switching the table space and Kitchen would eliminate the "view" from the Great Room and minimize it from the Foyer.

  • 9 months ago
    last modified: 9 months ago

    Just saw that Anj_p also suggested the switch.

    Also, cutting 2' off the island isn't enough if your goal is to prevent disruptive traffic through the main working part of the Kitchen.

    Additionally, you have no landing space for the ovens that isn't across a potentially busy walkway/aisle.