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Alternate sources for older roses

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As everyone knows, we have lost a lot of rose sources over the years, though some do remain. While looking for herbs for my new garden I ran across a surprise source of a few such roses. The vendor is Mountain Valley Growers. They carry a number of miniature roses, and I wondered if some of them might actually be Ralph Moore roses. They also offered Mermaid, Petite Pink Scotch, Ballerina, and Rosa viridifolia. It is a small selection, but if these are what you are seeking, it could be a useful resource.

I also remember that Annie's Annuals carries over a dozen roses including Duchesse de Brabant, Monsieur Tillier, Rose de Rescht, Phyllis Bide, and Mrs Oakley Fisher as well as the much beloved Grandmother's Hat. They have recently changed ownership, so I checked their website to verify that they still have them. They do. I find the website difficult to navigate, but perhaps they will work that out in time.

I wonder what other small secondary resources some of us might have come across accidentally while looking for different plants. If you add them to this post, they might serve someone on this forum well.

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    Rosefire

    marysplantfarm not sure on this one anymore

    h.

    Freedomgardens

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    Mountain Valley is a good source. Yes, those are Moore varieties. I ordered from them several years ago. Nice people. Burlington offers quite a few OGRs in her larger rose list (as opposed to the mini list). As it's always changing, email her for the latest availability.

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    Fedco Trees offers a fair number of bare-root old roses each year, with an emphasis on cold-hardy varieties. Their stock changes from year to year. I've been quite pleased with their roses so far.

    https://www.fedcoseeds.com/trees-and-shrubs/roses


    I highly recommend Freedom Gardens (Peter Schneider), though I'm not sure whether he ships. In any case, if you live in the Midwest, it is well worth paying him a visit in June, to see how roses actually perform in our conditions.

    http://www.combinedroselist.com/freedom-gardens.html


    Der Rosenmeister (Leon Ginenthal) has an intriguing selection of hardy ramblers and climbers, sold as very large and healthy plants, but he doesn't ship. But if you're anywhere near Ithaca NY, I definitely recommend him.

    https://www.derrosenmeister.com/

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    Why don't my link show up in color anymore

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    Forest Farm has an interesting collection of species.

    https://www.forestfarm.com


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    What about Almost Eden? https://www.almostedenplants.com/shopping/products/c250-roses/ 

    They are out of Louisiana. They cater to the Southeast, offering a variety of perennials, shrubs and trees. They also offer a number of China roses, several tea and found roses and some others. They are probably all own root. I've done business with Almost Eden before. Everything that I have received (camellias, rhododendrons, etc.) has been healthy.

    The rose prices are very reasonable, under $15-$20. It might be worth a try.

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    Dancing Oaks Nursery is a lesser known nursery that has roses among the plants they offer


    dancingoaks.com

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    I was also going to suggest Almost Eden. I have been buying from them for years. I always get nice healthy plants and sometimes an extra plant in the pot. They really have a good selection of plants for hummingbirds, bees, butterflies etc. They also have lots of good companion plants for roses.

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    Thanks so much for this additional listing of classic rose vendor! I'm particularly interested in the Moore roses that may not be in circulation so the Mountain Valley link is welcome. I know Burlington has a ton of his roses too, all for VERY reasonable prices. I've bookmarked the others and will cruise those sites for a future year. I already have way more roses ordered this year than any one human should be planting in a season.

    Cynthia

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    Thank you for listing some vendors I wasnt aware of!

    Annie's Annuals closed but happily reopened as Curious Flora. https://www.curiousflora.com/about

    Unfortunately it does not look like they are continuing the mail order operation at this time.

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    @kathyc_z10_socal a Facebook friend just visited them and made that comment. It appears likely they won't offer mail order any longer. Her further comment was she hoped they could generate enough business from the surrounding area to remain in business, but didn't seem hopeful. What a loss.

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    As soon as I found out about the Peaceful Valley purchase, I signed up for their newsletter, hoping for updates on the Annie's thing, but nothing ever mentioned, and I got one from them a day or so ago. So sad.

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    I am very sorry to hear this. I loved Annie's, and bought from them regularly when I lived in California. Yes, they were on the expensive side, but the quality of their plants was unmatched anywhere. The Richmond nursery was quite a trek for me from the South Bay, but one I made at least a couple times a year. I had planned to continue as a mail-order customer from here in Colorado, and indeed bought a small order from them last summer. I do hope that the new owners are successful in keeping the nursery alive, even if it will no longer be available to me. I will get on the Peaceful Valley mailing list as well, just in case good things do happen.

    P.S. Annie's was my source for the pure white floxglove 'Snow Thimble'. Jon from Wessex, a former member here who used to work at Mottisfont Abbey, convinced me that white foxgloves were the perfect accent for a rose garden. Fortunately I was able to find them at Bluestone Perennials, and placed my order earlier today. I didn't want to take the risk of waiting for Peaceful Valley and possibly be disappointed.