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Which climber is nicknamed,"The Climbing Maniac"?

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I've come across this nickname being used by folks who are not necessarily avid rosarians (as some of us are 😁), but I have not seen the rose, nor is the verbal description given clear enough for me to make a good ID. I am thinking Eden, or perhaps New Dawn, but the large, abundant petaled flower description given does not match New Dawn.

Also, high black spot resistance is also,"The Climbing Maniac's," reported attribute, which further gives me a correct identification harder to come to. Eden is not known for excellent black spot resistance, is it? For that matter, New Dawn spots under heavy pressure.

Any ideas?

Moses.

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    Did they happen to mention color? Laguna could fit the description here, it is huge with great blackspot resistance and large blooms. Eden has a reputation for barely growing unless grafted and blackspot resistance is reported as ok by some and bad by others. New dawn has always been reported as a beast of a climber with good blackspot resistance and wicked thorns. Now I am curious I could totally use a rose with that description. Madame Alfred Carrier does not meet that description here she gets blackspot and after 4 years it is a scraggily thing at 7 feet tall max. I agrer with NollieSpain it really will depend on location but I WANT this climbing maniac.

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    Well, I still nominate New Dawn after having several experiences with that beast. I'm sure there are others that are worse, but for me it's New Dawn. What made my experiences worse was that these "New Dawn" roses, straight from David Austin roses many years ago, were reversions to Dr So and So (can't remember his name), the rose New Dawn sported from. This meant my New Dawn roses bloomed just once like the rose New Dawn like its parent,. and ND is prone to reverting as all sports are. Diane

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    May I further complicate things by adding that,"The Climbing Maniac," is supposed to be intensely fragrant. The fragrance wafts for a considerable distance as reported. Its vigor is claimed to be such that it can grow between the crack in a sidewalk. I got such an unintelligible description of its color, that all I could decipher/interpret (although an English speaker described the rose), was a white/light pink ground with darker streaked? petals.

    Moses.

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    My WAG is you're not in the right century. Something like de la Grifferaie, which used to be used as a rootstock. If it wasn't for the large flowers, I'd go Dorothy Perkins or Veilchenblau.

    The old once-bloomers tend to blow people's minds in the northeast, since they are very hardy and very healthy, particularly compared to most modern roses.

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    Bump.

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    Really not much to go on but what about Lady Waterlow? That has largish, fragrant blooms that are white/pale pink with darker pink streaks. Or Mme Grégoire Staechelin also has darker pink veining on a pale background. Both can get pretty large..

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    Guess what, fellow forum folks, it's grown by seed?!!! Almost sounds like the internet scam of the Century, but a friend of mine that gardens less intensely as we tend to, has a 'Maniac Rose,' that has a cane 4' long grown from a seed planted just months ago! I'm thoroughly befuddled. The seed of the Maniac Rose is being sold on Amazon. It comes in an array of colors....another friend is reported to have one that blooms purple.

    You buy a packet of Maniac Rose seeds, plant them, and in no time you have a free blooming climber! Is this possible? Talk about something bringing out the sceptic in my to the Nth. Degree! Did I just wake up in Munchkin Land?

    Moses.

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    Moses, it's possible they are selling rose seeds, and it's possible the seeds will produce a climber. But as far as I know, there is NO strain of rose-from-seed that will produce the list of sterling qualities you list in your original post. It *might* be seeds of a species rose, which could be disease resistant, but then you're dealing with a single flower, not double. I'd wait to see what kind of flower your friend's seedling produces. But I'm betting it will be at least two years before it produces a flower.

    Heavily fragrant? Robust grower? Multiple colors? Fully double flowers? Disease resistant? If such a thing existed, it would have long ago made its debut here on the forums. Remember, if something sounds too good to be true...

    I suspect that the results had from these seeds would be far from "as advertised".


    P.S. Munchkinland is a nice place to visit, but they only grow plastic roses, lol.

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    Hybrid Multiflora

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    You know, a picture's worth a thousand words, so when I see THE CLIMBING MANIAC with my bare eyes, and can positively verify that its reported traits are correct, I will then stand in awe of it.

    Moses.

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    The word 'reblooming' has not been mentioned yet. There are entire catalogs of roses that are very fragrant, very vigorous, very disease resistant - yet people won't give them the time of day because they don't repeat.