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Tell Me About 'Betty Vickers'

My order from A Reverence for Roses came today, and much to my surprise, there was a second plant in with my singularly ordered 'Lady Hillingdon'. Returning to the box and finding the packing slip, it seems they gave me a freebie- 'Betty Vickers'.
I understand she was a champion of Old Garden Roses and passed too soon in 2019.
The rose doesn't have much information on HMF yet, Old Gardenweb, or Houzz.A creation by Dr. Malcolm Manners, she is dated at 2021 on HMF.Parentage: 'Faith Whittlesey' × "Belfield (Bermuda mystery rose)" Pictures show a single, hot pink kind of bloom. Reminds me if the blooms of 'Altissimo' and 'Playgirl' were put together from what I'm looking at.
I'm really doubting any meaningful hardiness based on the parentage, and zero scent. I'm thinking I'll raise her a container size or two upward and see what I think. She looks so cheerful!
Steven

Comments (8)

  • last year

    I have no experience with it but looked it up. Love it! Very pretty rose and the fact that it has no prickles except on the back of the leaves is intriguing. Sounds thornless but with maybe some little ones on the back of the leaves? Once you get it going you should post photos, impressions and progress. Along with pics of the back of those leaves.

  • last year

    I grew Faith Whittlesey. It's a tea rose that I really loved but it was barely hardy for me. There is nothing behind your rose that makes me think it will be significantly hardier. Do you have a plan on overwintering it?

  • last year

    Where are you located Karen?


  • last year

    Karen, I do not plan on doing any kind of winter protection. I'm not willing to put that kind of effort into something when there are plenty of other varieties that will do well for me.

    Peter Schneider has 'Lady Hillingdon' recommended for his area, so I figured she would be a worthy effort in mine. Besides that, I've adored her since my adolescent ages, so at least twenty-two years now with more than that in actual growing experience.

    That's why, among other factors, I'm not convinced my USDA Climate Zone has really changed from 5b to 6a. I've tried 'Old Blush'. Three years and four seasons on, this is "6a" rose is definitely not doing well in my area.

    'Mutabilis' is another that completely died out after several seasons on a South facing wall.

    Returning to 'Betty Vickers', I love the rich, glowing colouration that brings bright cheer. I'll probably keep her containerized. I want to see her party pieces at least once! I'm afraid if I planted her directly, I might not get to before she croaked.


    Here are pictures from my 'Old Blush' (still barely kicking) and 'Mutabilis' (died out).

  • last year

    Hi, Sheila. I'm in central East Tennessee. I was in z7a recently changed to z7b. I've always believed I'm in the middle between the two. I rarely lose roses solely from low temperatures, it's usually from a cold snap after an extended warm spell.


    Hi, MiGreenThumb. I've grown those roses too. Old Blush and Lady Hillingdon are survivors. I think that Mutabilis might have had a better chance to survive here if it would have been bigger, if I could have gotten it earlier in the season.and if our season had been more forgiving. I like to plant my little roses in a pot till they're big enough to survive and to plant them in the ground in the fall. In this case I feel like it would have helped if the rose had been big enough to plant in the ground and become established for a summer. I feel like I'm on the edge of where teas are hardy. Some do OK but some don't. Most Chinas survive well here.

    Good luck with Betty Vickers. I hope she does well for you.

  • last year

    I agree with you, Karen, that you sound like you are on the edge for Teas. They are so much fun if they are hardy enough. Thank you for putting in your location.

  • last year

    Karen, you can try adding that to your name