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Patio Cover Dilemma

last year

Been trying to make a decision for over a year now, I decided I need objective advice from the experts!

Have been looking into patio cover options that would protect from the elements and add charm to the patio. Light transmission is a priority to avoid dimming the house further. My options were narrowed down to Struxure lovered aluminum pergola versus a Herculite (polycarbonate) covered wooden pergola. To my shock, the quote for the covered pergola came very close to that of the aluminum at almost 70K for a 25 X 25' with all the bells and whistles!

Concerns regarding the aluminum pergola is possible malfunction, clattering with wind, and customer service.

Concerns regarding wooden pergola includes susceptibility to warpage, rotting, carpenter bees, need for upkeep liek staining and sealing regularly, and unpredictability with the Herculite longevity despite life-time warranty. I had requested the posts be wrapped in composite but the contractor is trying to talk me out of it for esthetics. Current proposal is for treated pine with self penetrating stain.

I've attached image of the house/ patio, my desired vision for the aluminum (Struxure) pergola and the digital rendition of the covered pergola.

I have exhausted my thought process and need expert advice. Would really appreciate any insight!

Comments (41)

  • last year

    This idea may or may not work for you, but I had a similar issue. I wanted a shaded area over a patio without blocking all light into the back of the house. A pergola with clear cover was outrageously expensive. The solution was a covered porch with strategically placed inoperable skylights. The skylights are placed in front of windows. It works well adding shade without darkening the adjoining rooms. And for a fraction of the cost.

  • last year

    Thank you! This would’ve been great but considering the span of the patio, a shed roof would be low towards the end of the patio. Alternative are Gable or Hip roof, both of which may be complicated when connected to a shed roof.

  • PRO
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    IMO neither of those will enhance that lovely house and all those slats will create really weird shadows inside . . I think it I guess depends on how many times you will use this space in the rain or the wind . We have no covers on our large outdoor area but we do have umbrellas placed where they are needed in colors we like and honestly have never needed to use the space in a rain storm or a wind storm I do see a huge need for some fix on the area around the patio and is the plan to enlarge that patio to allow for some seating ? Maybe something like this is you want a permanent system. There are some very large cantilevered umbrellas you might want to check out too


  • last year
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    Have you priced a retractable awning? They can be installed on the roof.




    Also get a large cantilevered umbrella for additional shade on the patio. Both solutions won't affect your indoor lighting.

  • PRO
    last year

    You might consider a motorized awning. Retract it fully or partially when not needed, when inside or a shady/cloudy day. We have two in our west-facing home, and we love them. Switch inside the house allows easy access.




  • PRO
    last year

    I love thos awnings but I can't see how she could attach them but maybe worth having someone come out to see what can be done thye really are a great idea in the right spot.

  • last year

    I love that permanent structure Patricia! Is that a solarium from patio enclosures?

    I like your take and I’m very open minded. The need for a cover is to have comfortable seating out there that is protected from the elements.
    I did have the awning guy come for an estimate but he said the cantilever is extensive requiring a double system, which would be very costly. He said it’s not worth it.

  • last year

    Your house and patio are so attractive! I fear that by adding an attached structure to the house you might add charm to the patio but spoil the substantial charm of your wonderful house. Can you consider other options? Have you consulted a landscape designer? Please consider it before making a final decision.

  • last year

    Appreciate your input so much! I’m starting to come to that conclusion, specifically after the outrageous quotes. What other options can you think of?

  • last year

    Have you tried a large cantilevered umbrella? You could have 2 of them.

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    Maybe a standalone structure at the end of the patio or garden. Or well-placed trellises. Or a secondary seating area in the shade. Or, as @chispa says, large umbrellas. I'm not a designer but I'll bet given the amount of money you were going to have to spend on a patio overhang, a great designer could come up with something that would both look great and meet your objectives. Worth a try. Good luck!

    P.S. Look into sun shades.

  • last year

    Thank you for the suggestions! I came here looking for such opinions because I felt I’m not exploring all options. Sun shades may be awesome, I’d have to find someone to install them we’re not too handy 😬.
    I will look for a landscape designer as I definitely need someone to brainstorm with.

  • last year

    I have not tried cantilevered umbrellas. I may end up
    putting a dining set with umbrella and a cantilever umbrella over the cushioned seating.

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    The back of your home is very attractive - I would hate to cover any of it up!

    What direction does the back of your house face? We added a new large patio - covered part of it, added a fire pit area + left part of it open. While I liked the idea of reducing the heat that comes in through the three large windows in the living room, I was concerned about losing too much natural light (I hate artificial light - and wouldn't ever have a need to turn on any lights prior to night (sunset).

    I didn't really lose much light - plenty of sunshine still available.

    The back of my house isn't as pretty as yours is - so, adding this cover isn't hiding any pretty windows or cedar shakes.

    This is what we did:



    We used cedar wood for everything



    We have an outdoor tv + nice speakers + two really good heating units





    I just started making containers/hanging baskets two years ago - I went a little crazy



    Fire pit area (and photo bomb by Baxter 😂)


  • last year

    Love your outdoor oasis!! I see you are a plant addict too😂😂
    That would be a saving and a preference. I think it faces south but we don’t get much light due to large trees blocking the sun. Don’t have ample light in the sunroom/ family room so definitely worry about loosing sunshine.
    I’ve been considering extending the patio and adding a fire pit. Yours look gorgeous but of course your planters and baskets are main players too 😍

  • PRO
    last year

    wow that gazebo is really nice, dan!

  • last year

    It is!! You guys got me thinking!

  • last year

    @dan1888 your garden is beautiful and Baxter is adorable ❤️

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    Dana - yes, I have a plant addiction!


    njmomma - I assume your comment was meant for me (not Dan1888) - Baxter is pretty adorable - and he knows it! He seriously photo bombs pics all the time! He is barely three pounds - and will be three years old on July 2nd.


    I was just coming back to add a similar type of gazebo as dan added below. They sell them all over - most seem to have really good reviews. Some people place them up against their house = looks like it's attached - while others use them as a freestanding unit:

    The next three photos are of the same gazebo (on Amazon):







    The next two photos are of another gazebo on Amazon:





    This is a larger on Amazon:



    They also sell pergolas with working panels that can close or open + have curtains:













    Here they added a fireplace/tv + storage to the stand along pergola with slats that open and close:


    Here is one used up next to the house:



    Purple Leaf is one of the sellers on Amazon for the pergolas above - they appear to have good reviews.

  • last year

    Thank you thank you! Yes meant for you because I am a fellow plant addict too! Love all these ideas, you guys are awesome!!

  • last year

    We had a 12’ cantaliever umbrellla from Purple Leaf at our old house. It was extremely sturdy (we lived right on SF Bay - it was on our back deck over the water, which was very windy - it had to be) The base filled with water, which was handy when it came time to put it way for the winter.

  • PRO
    last year

    Yes that pic is from Patio Enclosures . I really can not imagine and solid roof structure that would curt off all light coming into the house. I would try the umbrells first I think the best choice with your home

  • last year

    May I suggest posting a pic or two of what your yard looks like from the inside of the house? It’s also important to think about what you will be looking at from that point of view and how a structure will change that looking from inside out. If you end up looking mostly at the patio’s roof (because the house seems to be higher up than the back yard) I’m not sure that will be as pleasant as looking at umbrellas would be. If you are a plant addict, you probably want to showcase your lovely yard and planters more than looking down on an aluminum pergola roof. Also, I really see classic English garden style trellis work fitting in nicely. Maybe install corner sections to frame the area and hang baskets from if you do opt for umbrellas? Will see if I can find pic to show what I’m thinking of.

  • last year

    Very good point! The tricky part is a patio cover would attach to the fascia above the sunroom shed roof

    Excuse the clutter! I have many plants waiting in Q to be plated after the patio cover is up.

    Now that you all got me thinking, I moved this patio set outside and used an old umbrella I once had to get a feeling. So far I love it, but the rain remains to be an issue.
    I have 100% cancelled the covered pergola as an option. I don’t see how I can use a louvered pergola on part of the patio only, unless I move the seating area down between the trees.
    Im definitely considering a designer and the sun shades/ umbrella options.

  • last year

    That garden is downright lovely! I like the umbrella for now. You have a wonderful green thumb. I also really like the iron trellis you already have.

  • last year

    Thank you! A work in progress like everything else! I’m patiently waiting for climbing hydrangeas to take over that arbor. The umbrella definitely adds charm but not that much with rain protection.
    I think sun shades/ sails would block view just like a pergola. If I’m not mistaken, 2/3 of the window view would be blocked.

  • PRO
    last year

    I've seen this kind before.


  • PRO
    last year

    You have goal conflict--you want something to provide shade for the patio, but you don't want to block light/sun in the house, and these two are at odds with one another. You can't have both, so you need to choose the lesser of the two evils, so to speak. Which is more important to you?

  • last year

    So interesting enough, I’m looking for shelter from rain rather than shade. I have enough trees that sun is not my issue.
    I want to have comfortable seating without having to cover and uncover every time I sit in it. Umbrellas won’t provide full protection from the rain.

    I can afford some light dimming in the house but cannot be 100% so I’m looking for sky lights or clear covers.

  • last year

    Beautiful yard! (And wow you too @dani_m08) -


    I’d be tempted to try a pergola from Costco and be mentally prepared to return it if you’re not happy with it. I feel like a sun shade is too informal for your lovely yard and won’t provide the rain protection you want - I would trust Costco over Amazon but that’s just me


    A neighborhood handyman could assemble/disassemble the pergola for you

  • last year

    So then a pergola is for sure not what you want. They are charming looking but if you truly have a harsh sun issue--they do not give you the cover needed anyway! Rain means solid surface and that will impact the light coming into the home unless you go with more glass. But given your lovely sun porch I would let this go. When it rains move inside, open the windows wide... Add the sky lights to it....

  • last year

    I had similar conflicting goals for my vacation home in Hawaii. I found my solution with Tropical J’s, based in Honolulu, but servicing the mainland
    as well. They make custom sized awnings and umbrellas which are a tight marine grade canvas and waterproof. My 14’ square umbrella was perfect, operated on a pulley system and allowed me to easily collapse the umbrella when I didn’t need its protection.

  • 3 months ago

    It’s been a year and I have an update that I’m thrilled to share. Patio cover is up, kitchen is built off the patio and a bonus patio extension with seating bench and fire pit.

  • PRO
    3 months ago

    Wow!!!! It's absolutely beautiful--thanks for coming back and showing us the final outcome!

    My daughter just did something similar and she loves it--enjoy your beautiful new outdoor space!

  • PRO
    3 months ago

    Question--you were concerned that a structure like this would block light into your house--did you find that to be the case?

  • 3 months ago

    Oh my, given the discussion and suggestions you went full on $$$$$$$ . It's breath-taking.

  • 3 months ago

    Diana, not at all! I have 4 (4x4) skylights and the height of the ceiling is 9-10’. I also removed a bunch of trees allowing more sun in. It’s perfect!

  • PRO
    3 months ago

    It certainly is!

  • 3 months ago

    Really nice integration with the house.

  • PRO
    3 months ago

    Ohh boy! It is great!! Wow!

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