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Do some roses travel a lot?

16 days ago
last modified: 16 days ago

I discovered two small rose sprouts? And they look like a rose that I have planted 10 ft away. I'm trying to figure out how that happened. There are no other roses in that area. Is it possible the roots spread underground 10ft away? It's not quite like a suckering shrub that just keeps expanding. And I don't see how it could have reseeded, since it hasn't bloomed in a few years and I normally deadhead it quite a bit. The rose is Penelope, which I think is an old fashioned rose that is quite vigorous and can get pretty large.

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  • 15 days ago

    I think some roes can travel that far. I have also had roses sprout up from mulch or bird droppings etc.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 15 days ago

    Thanks Shelia, Right now the sprout is coming up in an area that needs some weeding which I can't get to right now, so no point of taking a photo. But at some point I will.

  • 14 days ago

    If you have some grafted roses, particularly those that were grafted then taken out, you might have some root fragments that are left over from the grafted rose. Dr. Huey is pretty persistent.

    I had some unknown OGR suckering all over one bed that I couldn't identify at all from the roses that were in that bed. I think it must have been a long-ago rose that stayed hidden till it tried to take over. 10 feet away would be child's play for that rose, and certainly a lot of gallicas.

    It sounds like you might want to take out the traveling rose parts particularly if you're not sure what it is. I wish I'd done that with my unknown OGR.

    Cynthia

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska
  • 13 days ago

    I love it when they travel.

  • 13 days ago
    last modified: 13 days ago

    I don’t know that rose, Bart…I’ll have to check it out.

    Cynthia - I’m pretty sure all my roses are grafted. And the location where it is sprouting never had a rose there. And it is seriously about 10ft away from the Penelope. So, it’s not even suckering.

    I looked up my rose on HelpMeFind…

    It’s a hybrid musk shrub. Growing up to 8ft by 5ft. Introduced in 1925.

    I do plan on digging it up and potting it until I see if I have another location for it. But it’s 95 here today As I’m sure it’s equally hot everywhere. It’s going to have to wait for the Fall. If it would bloom, I’d be better able to identify it.

    Sheila, I might be happy about it too. I’m not sure yet. [g] It’s just I think you have a larger property than my quarter acre. It may come up in an area I have something else planted in. But if I can just dig it out, I don’t think it will be a problem. It’s been here for at least 10 years and never did this before, so I don’t think it’s going to be a big issue. I just find it kind of amazing, that roots would travel that far. I don't think it could have reseeded as I usually deadhead.

  • 13 days ago
    last modified: 13 days ago

    If you want a really persistent traveling rose, when my garden was mostly hybrid Rugosas and OGRs, my own root Snow Carpet (Schneekoppe, Gr.), was the most determined of them all at sending up new shoots about 10" away from the mother plant. Such shoots were always just severed and discarded, however they could have easily been allowed to create a new bush.

    prairiemoon2 z6b MA thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 12 days ago

    Moses, I just bought a rugosa rose labeled 'Schneekoppe' and haven't planted it yet. One of the other rugosas in the order bloomed and it's questionable if it is labeled correctly, so I don't know yet if this is labeled right either. But thanks for tellng me that. If it pushes up shoots....you meant 10 ft away, right?.....does that mean it makes a large thicket?

  • 12 days ago
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    Schneekoppe is one of my favorite hy. rugosas. Its blooms are not as sloppy petaled as so many HRs are. They are casually cupped....unusual for the class....very photogenic. The flower color starts out with pale pink buds, then the palest lilac when centers start to show, then progresses to creamy white when full open. In a cluster, all stages of flower development are present, making a lovely show.

    Another great hybrid rugosa is the compact, mounded Henry Hudson. Bloom form is more polyantha than hybrid rugosa....very well set with plenty of petals. Otherwise it's a prolific bloomer and very fragrant in true hybrid rugosa mode.

    Moses.

  • 12 days ago

    I just bought a rose labeled 'Schneekoppe' but you can see the discussion below about the other rose in the order that seems to be mislabeled. So, I don't know if I have it. I haven't planted it yet. Thanks for the heads up. Very good to know.

  • 12 days ago

    Prairie, I am having the same issue. I have gotten 2 Soul Sisters that are true to the mother plant and they werent connected by a root, They were close to the mother plant. But, the weird one is a really pretty deep orange that came up next to a Daylilly.

    I even asked BradJalbert what was going on and he thought that some deadheading or prunning replanted. The orange rose could be Frida Kailo which was also about 10 ft away. Its a mystery but I have gotten 3 new plants so yay for that.

    Hope we can figure it out.


  • 12 days ago
    last modified: 12 days ago

    No, Prairiemoon, 10" (inches), away! I think ten feet away would be a Ripley's Believe it or Not event! Yes I believe that Rugosas and their hybrids that have strong Rugosas characteristics, are colony roses. One plant, in time, could spread 6+ feet across with dozens of canes emerging at ground level, each one spaced relatively evenly apart and all of them connected to the original bush.

    Moses.

  • 11 days ago

    Kristine, That’s an interesting thought, that a dead headed branch could have rooted where it landed. Really nice that you ended up with new roses.

    Moses, I’m going to have to take a photo of where my original rose is and where the sprout is. It has to be 10ft away. That seemed hard to believe to me too. And ‘Penelope’ is not a rugosa and doesn’t show any of those spreading tendencies. So it is a mystery.