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Acer sieboldianum ‘Kumoi Nishiki’

last year

I bought this today from a guy who sells plants from his home. He said he bought it off Etsy, but could not offer any other info. Based on pictures off the web, I think it is properly labeled. The challenge now is to find a suitable site. Since it is variegated, I suspect a part-sun location would be best, with morning sun/afternoon shade being optimal. I have plenty of shade and the question I have is what is the minimal amount of sun it would require? Could it thrive with as little as 3-4 hours of dappled sun?



Comments (10)

  • last year

    I have no idea about the sun exposure, but that’s a beautiful little tree. Leaves are excellent

    maackia thanked L Clark (zone 4 WY)
  • last year

    Agree w/Lane, it's nice looking.

    I've bought some stuff from Etsy, it increasingly seems small sellers there are picking up the slack of all the 'serious' nurseries that, in the past decade or so, have either gone entirely out of biz (Song Sparrow) or almost have (Rarefind). I really worry that in 10-15 years, specialist mail order nurseries just won't be a thing anymore, at least in the US. When the last crop of them are ready to retire, or, to put in bluntly, are retired by mother nature, nobody is going to replace them. Will anyone takeover Cistus when Sean retires? Or Digging Dog when its owners are ready to do something else? I very much doubt it.


    maackia thanked UpperBayGardener (zone 7)
  • last year

    The serious nursery I miss most is Seneca Hills Perennials.

    maackia thanked laceyvail 6A, WV
  • last year
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    Nice tree maackia!

    I know nothing about sun requirements, except what I read.

    Just for the fun of it and I know I'll be blown right out of town suggesting using AI for gardening knowledge and I know AI is in its infant stages but it's here and it can find information that's already on the web, in seconds, compared to searching for hours to find something.

    You still need be somewhat savvy about what it tells you but if you're not, that's why we need Garden web people to help us know if it's baloney or not.

    But here's what I asked it:

    'Can Acer sieboldianum ‘Kumoi Nishiki’ thrive with as little as 3-4 hours of dappled sun?'

    Here (minus the hot links) are the returned results: (and I know the word 'Dappled' is a bit ambiguous for light intensity per hour).

    ' Based on the information available, it appears that Acer sieboldianum ‘Kumoi Nishiki’ can indeed thrive with as little as 3-4 hours of dappled sunlight, and in some cases, even more shade. Here's why:

    • Dappled shade or part shade is generally recommended: Most sources suggest that 'Kumoi Nishiki' prefers filtered sun, partial shade, or even mostly shade for optimal health and to preserve the variegation.
    • Protection from afternoon sun is beneficial: Many sources specifically emphasize the importance of shielding the plant from the intense hot afternoon sun, which can scorch the delicate variegated foliage.
    • Variegation thrives in shade: Some sources explicitly state that the creamy white variegation on the leaves holds best in part shade to shade.

    Therefore, 3-4 hours of dappled sunlight, especially if it's morning sun with afternoon shade, should be suitable for your 'Kumoi Nishiki'. Japanese maples generally thrive in partial sun (3-6 hours) and can tolerate a fair amount of shade. Observing the leaves for vibrant color and healthy growth can also help determine if the plant is receiving optimal light.

    If you find this offensive in any way, just disregard it. I like to experiment with new things on the computers, it's the only way I can understand what's going on with all these developments.

    bill

  • last year

    We all know your intelligence is the real thing GG.


    But if anyone searches the internet for anything, AI is fast and a step above the google search engine. Instead of returning anything and everything that has the key word in it, it returns a more sophisticated answer that's much more focused on the question.


    You still have to be careful how you word your question and be aware of what source it listed its information from (If it's from 'Picture This' or some other site that doesn't always include science), I'd be more skeptical then.


    And then if we're not sure, we can always come here and get the real story. 😁

  • last year

    I suppose AI had to enter the horticultural conversation at some point. Thanks, Bill. :) Actually, with my natural intelligence waning, a boost of AI -- I'll consider it a supplement -- might not be such a bad thing. I feel AI is coming at us like a freight train, so might as well adapt. Still, Pam's answer is hands down the best. Pam, does this mean you're smarter than AI?

  • last year
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    No problem.

    When I first started working with AI, some of the answers were atrocious, completely out in left field. I used the thumbs down, that gave me the option to send them comments with screen shots and correct information. Surprisingly, as time went on, things improved.

    One still needs to be careful. AI works strictly on logic and web searches, so if it's wrong information on the web, it may be returned by AI as a legitimate answer (parrot net). The sources AI uses for its answers are displayed on the same page, and you can look at them individually on the right side of the page (on a pc), or AI will tell you in its answer where it got the information from. Again, the wrong information is usually gleaned from the same bad sites we been dealing with all along.

  • last year

    "Pam, does this mean you're smarter than AI? "

    Boy, that gave me the best laugh of my day!! All I have to offer is multiple decades of first hand horticultural experience. And a good memory.......most of the time.

    I don't have a lot of argument with AI generated info. I DO have issues with much of its visual applications. I don't put much value in its ID applications or most renderings.

    Sometimes you just need the input from a real human brain.

  • last year
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    I agree with the above.

    The only reason I started using AI for searches, is it helps speed up the mundane, everyday searching, and AI reveals many of the best sources.

    But you still need a brain to sort out and skills to make use of any of it. ;-)