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2 months ago
last modified: 2 months ago

Dh and I bought a condo in Fl last spring as his parents are needing more and more support. It's really lovely, but super dated as well--suffice it to say we bought it for the view. We had planned on spending some time there earlier this summer and figuring out what we want/need to do, but life got in the way. But we're heading there tomorrow for a week and will start our triage list asap. Eventually we'll be the proverbial snowbirds, spending time between CT and FL.


Two things (well, three) have to go in the condo. The tile floor, the curved track lighting, and the valances. I'll likely have the valances down by the weekend. The floor we'd like to do LVP because we won't be there year round and I don't want to deal with real wood floors and humidity. We've been told we can likely put LVP over the tile. Anyone with that experience?


On to the lighting. I want to avoid major work. We will have table lamps and I'm wondering if I can get by with replacing the track lighting with single semi-flush ceiling mounts? We bought the place furnished but will be replacing the furniture with our own--most likely a cream colored leather sofa and matching club chairs (they are in great shape and seems silly to spend on new.)


Here's the current setup (main room):

(the kitchen is to the right and there is a big foyer before you enter this space.)


This is what Chatgpt suggested for lights (and unprompted floor changes).


I actually really like the drum lighting, but worry there won't be enough lighting at night.

With a bit more prompting to ChatGPT, the chandelier was changed to this (Don't love the glass globe though even though I suggested a clear, glass globe made of bubble glass. Also, I don't know why the drum semi flush mount was jettisoned.)


I'd love some ideas!

Comments (57)

  • 2 months ago
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    Love your view!
    When we installed LVP, we had to remove all the tile. If I remember correctly, the tile was smooth but not level, and the transitions to the floors in the adjoining rooms would have been too noticeable.

    Here’s my advice for LVP:

    -Choose the longest and widest boards you can find.
    -Make sure each box contains a mix of boards to reduce the chance of repeating patterns once it's laid out. The manufacturer's site should have this info.
    -Avoid colors with dramatic shadowing or visible knots to prevent patterns (like stripes or polka dots) from showing up once it's installed.

    jojoco thanked deegw
  • 2 months ago

    I think my vision for the space will evolve as we determine what’s coming from our Pennsylvania house. I do not want golden girls vibe. It will definitely have a more northern feel. I measured a lot of furniture from our house to see what will fit. Then I’ll work around those pieces.

  • 2 months ago

    Oh? Is there a room there? I was so entranced with the view, I missed it!! :)


    I'm wondering if the track lighting isn't because, given the construction, recessed cans aren't an option.


    Our vinyl needed a completely flat surface to be applied to -- not even screw holes -- as it would make the floor dent into any recesses. So I suspect not over tile unless it was covered in a leveling surface of some sort... which would raise the height ... otherwise it would have to be removed.


    While the tile isn't my favorite, if you have any plans for carpets, I'd just leave it and let it be a sand-colored backdrop to whatever you chose for the top. The thing about tile is it's perfectly durable for FL weather and sand.


    I'd consider lighting near the windows, esp if you do decide you want window treatments of some sort...maybe 18" out...small recessed cans if possible...track if not. I love it when the light creates an arc on the fabric like below.




    I'd go with aqua colored glass chandy over the table to bring that gorgeous sea color into the room, chihuly style or capiz shell or either of these...the handkerchief or the domed uplight. that look like sea glass.



    jojoco thanked Annie Deighnaugh
  • 2 months ago

    I would use more table and floor lamps for lighting in the seating areas. Ceiling lighting over a seating area casts shadows down and glare especially from a single source. It's standard over a table of course but I wouldn't have it over a seating group and depend on it.

    We don't have a single ceiling light in our living room, and three lamps that carry a decent sized bulb, lumens wise are more than sufficient. We even keep one of the bulbs in the sofa lamps off most of the time.

    jojoco thanked palimpsest
  • 2 months ago

    Seeing all that glass reminded me of what Phillip Johnson called the windows in his glass house -- world's most expensive wallpaper!

    jojoco thanked Annie Deighnaugh
  • 2 months ago

    That view is beautiful. I’m guessing PO did not hang a low fixture over the table is not because it visually blocks the view, but when it’s on the light is straight in the eyes of the looker.

    We have that issue because people who sit on the couch look i to the dining room. People would ask us to turn down the dimmer so you could barely see.

    We solved it with an elaborate large ceiling piece. I suggest waiting until your furniture layout ia set before deciding on lighting.

    Here’s a pic from the sofa to illustrate




    jojoco thanked 1929Spanish-GW
  • 2 months ago

    I would look at photos of other sold or on the market real estate in your building. It would be interesting to see how others handled the lighting issue.

    jojoco thanked deegw
  • 2 months ago
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    Love your view! It would be fantastic to snowbird there! What a GREAT property! I wouldn't put in white leather in a humid climate. (I had white leather in the 80's). Yes you can put LVP over tile. LVP has a padded surface under it. Even subtle bumps in the tile will disappear. Love the new light fixtures, I have a drum fixture with 5 bulbs...it's plenty of light. Note: I'm adding valances at my house...I'd leave those.

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  • 2 months ago
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    Although I used the term ”can lights,” with a little googling, I’ve discovered the correct term should be ”wafer lights.” Here is one that can be installed with less than 2” of clearance.


    There are lots of choices. Here are a few



    Unless you know what you are doing, I don’t think this is a DIY project, but this video gives you an idea of how little space is needed.



    Mostly, if you want to do this, you are going to need a very competent electrician.


    ETA: DSIL’s family’s beach house had white oak hardwood flooring. They never had a problem with warping that I’m aware of. I’ll see if I can find pictures.

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  • 2 months ago

    Go to a good family lighting store if you can find one. Bring a picture of the living room with the track lighting and ask for suggestions. You don’t need to find the store in Florida, maybe there is one closer to your home. I like the track lighting, I don’t like the design, a bit idk art deco for me. If you choose to replace the track lighting with a bit more updated track lighting that blends into the ceiling, then I would add other layers of lighting to the room or maybe not. Less is more for me. I am also a ceiling fan girl, but mostly just in bedrooms, With that said I live in the north.

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  • 2 months ago
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    Okay, now that I know that it will have the traditional feel of your PA home, totally nix my track lighting comment.

    I personally have become a total convert to lamps. Do you have any floor outlets? In my LR I have one semiflush OH light, two sconces flanking the Frame TV, one floor lamp, and five table lamps. I love having all of those pools of light around the room, so that is my vote. If you find it a pain, you could put some or all on the same switch?

    Can't wait to see your take on this lovely space!

    jojoco thanked mtnrdredux_gw
  • 2 months ago

    I love my Coretech flooring. It is waterproof and has it’s own backing. It is a floating, not glue down, so humidity does not affect it.

    jojoco thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 2 months ago

    I would keep some ceiling lighting for those times when you need the help of a strong light. Something spills, you drop an earring back, a bug gets in the room, fun things like that.

    jojoco thanked deegw
  • 2 months ago

    What a great view and space!


    You will have to have sheetrock repair done if you take down the track lighting. I would look into replacing the light heads with smaller LED lights. It would make those tracks less obtrusive.

    I put LVP flooring over old scratched glued down wood flooring in our previous condo. If you purchase good quality LVP it shouldn't be a problem. What a difference new flooring would make in your place!


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  • 2 months ago

    Wow, what a view. I am missing the decorating gene but I laughed at the Golden Girl comment. What, no pastel flowered rattan furniture?

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  • 2 months ago

    I'm wondering where the outlets are since there's very little wall space and I didn't see any floor outlets. Could you have table and floor lamps where you want/need them? I'd be inclined to use two ceiling fixtures that are the same rather than one that has to be centered over a table. With one large room like that there may not be an exact spot for the table and you could end up with a chandy that's not centered over the table. I have that problem in one of my houses - always planned to change it but having to fix the ceiling deterred me. At least wait to decide on a fixture until you've lived there a while with your furniture.

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  • 2 months ago

    While I am not a fan of tile, it does look nice if it is in good shape. It can be professionally cleaned. However, now IS the time to replace.

    The valances would have to go for me.

    Other than the floor, I would get my furniture in and arranged before replacing the lighting. You may want it sightly different than what you think now.

    My son put a nice rectangle fixture over his dining table, lower and with a dimmer. I did not know they made rectangle chandeliers!

    jojoco thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 2 months ago

    My in-laws have an apartment very close to ours and theirs is white white and more white with beautiful pops of color. It’s wonderful and the pops of color are generally in the blue family to tie in their beautiful golf view. Our leather couch set is actually cream colored, not white. We either use that one or a beautiful Caramel brown one. Both have at least one oversized matching chair. I just can’t see buying new furniture since we will be selling our Pennsylvania house and have way too much furniture anyway.
    We also love lamps. Both floor and table lamps and we have a lot of them. Our house in Philly has tons of floor outlets, I’m at the airport and will soon discover whether our new condo has decent access for outlets.
    Part of the plan of this week is to get some tradesmen in to give estimates

  • 2 months ago

    Do you have photos of the items you'd like to repurpose. Also, just saying, Florida is an excellent place to thrift home decor. How much will it cost to move your stuff vs sell it in PA and buy vintage in FL? Just a thought.


    jojoco thanked mtnrdredux_gw
  • 2 months ago

    Outlets can now be surface mounted almost anywhere very nicely if it is impossible to put in the wall (think concrete).

    jojoco thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 2 months ago

    Also, re can lights… lots of CC&R’s prevent homeowners from installing things that impact the structure like laundry and can lighting.

    jojoco thanked 1929Spanish-GW
  • 2 months ago
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    I really do not like can lights myself and would have the wiring redone and the sheetrock patched. A nice fan would be great over the sofa area.

    If I had furniture I liked, I would for sure use it, no matter what it cost to move!

    I was ”convinced” to replace furniture I loved and fit, with different. I have regretted it ever since and I can no longer find what I want, even vintage.

    jojoco thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 2 months ago
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    Are these the vibe?




    jojoco thanked mtnrdredux_gw
  • 2 months ago

    My experience is with Coretec so of course I googled. In our current Florida home, and now our new one, we removed all tile first. That would be my preference.

    But..




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  • 2 months ago
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    For tile removal in our new house we used a company called Florida Dust Free Tile Removal.. It’s a Ft. Myers company, but maybe there is something similar.

    You have a lot of tile and it will be a big job to remove it all.

    jojoco thanked eld6161
  • 2 months ago
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    Stunning views! I would be overwhelmed with the prospect of the tile removal - agree with eld it would be a big, messy job. IRL, is the tile such that some large rugs (seagrass or something) would provide enough distraction?


    ETA: Actually went back and read the comments that indicated LVP can be installed over tile. If so, probably the way to go.

    jojoco thanked rubyclaire
  • 2 months ago

    Definitely @rubyclaire . Your mock up and selection of seagrass or something along that line and the beautiful drapes framing the view.


    That’s perfection.

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  • 2 months ago
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    Only a robot would place a sofa away from that view, lol! ID’s are safe from AI …. for now 😎

    adding… curtains are lovely but I would personally steer clear of glass tables and rattan chairs if a more northern feel is the desired style. Also— are there more windows out of the frame of the picture? Maybe the sofa IS facing outward?🤔

  • 2 months ago

    I wonder if this is flood prone? They may have put down tile as it would damage less if water gets in?

    jojoco thanked arkansas girl
  • 2 months ago

    Congrats on the purchase, such a pretty view. In our rental cottage, the flooring company used Schonox SL to self level the tile/grout lines (very similar to yours).

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  • 2 months ago

    So we spent our first night here and enjoyed a really pretty sunset. When DH was at the gym, I did a little furniture rearranging. I actually like this set up so much better. Here’s the before and then the after.

  • 2 months ago
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    Mtn makes some really good points about the expense of moving furniture. We are definitely rethinking that. This layout makes me realize that a good quality sectional would be ideal. DH refuses to buy couches off Facebook marketplace, so there may be some shopping in our future. But in the meantime, I can live with this set up. It definitely takes advantage of the views. as far as the balances go, I can’t take them down yet because they are screwed in and are probably 30 years old. But I do like the fact that they hide the silhouette lines.


  • 2 months ago
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    The couches look fine moved. Are they comfortable? The floor doesn’t look bad, even if I am NOT a fan of tile. Someone on the west coast of FL had a hurricane and flood, the concrete walls and tile floor were some of the only things okay.

    Live there awhile and then replace..

    jojoco thanked Sherry8aNorthAL
  • 2 months ago
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    They actually are very comfortable. I suspect they’re down. But they need a good cleaning and I’m going to buy some upholstery cleaner today and see if I can get some of the slight staining out.

  • 2 months ago

    I used a company to steam clean my couches and they did a fantastic job. I think it was Stanley Steamer???

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  • 2 months ago

    I just took a picture with the track lighting on over the couch. I’m pleasantly surprised. It’s less industrial than I thought it would be. I can absolutely live with it. In fact, it’s kind of pretty.

  • 2 months ago
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    But the one over the dining room table? Hideous. Has to go. I think part of the issues that it hangs down. But do notice the circular relief in the ceiling. We’d love to put a smaller rectangular table there, but are a little concerned about that feature. The current table is 60 inches across, which is too big for us and takes up a lot of real estate.


    Dh says we could do rectangular. I disagree although we both definitely want to go a bit smaller. Team DH or team jojo?

  • 2 months ago

    Fun! How are the pleat treatments in the valance sewn? Can you pull out some stitches so they will lay flat? They should look a little less busy that way.

  • 2 months ago
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    I had track lighting in a design in our 1890 house in AL. It was in the attic conversion. We loved it ! It was like stars at night.

    You know the idea of living with it really does hold true. We did with this 1910 house because the contractor we wanted was booked a year out.

    I had thought I knew what I wanted. I am so glad I had to wait. We changed our minds about a lot of things and are so glad we did wait.

    Beautiful view.

    edited to add...that dining table lighting is definitely awful LOL. What were they thinking ? LOL.

    I think the rectangle with leaf/leaves would be ideal and then get that ceiling " thing" fixed. All in good time.

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  • 2 months ago
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    I hate tile floors with a purple passion - however, they have their place. I lived with them in one house because I knew we were not going to be there long enough to get value out of changing them.

    When Katrina hit, water got into our second house even though it is more than 300 miles from the coast. That house had wall-to-wall carpet everywhere. We pulled up the carpet and replaced it with tile. I knew the tile could withstand getting wet, although it was unlikely to ever happen again. Plus, we loaned our house to friends and family from time to time. Even though none of them would ever abuse our house, accidents happen. With tile, I didn’t have to worry about the floor getting ruined.

    P.S. I have LVP in my closet (long story). I have most of it covered by a rug. I don’t like the sound of it.

    The round ”feature” in the ceiling is puzzling, not to mention limiting. From the photo, it looks applied, not an integral part of the ceiling. Is there a gap between the round thing and the ceiling itself? Wonder if you can find anyone else in the building who took one down and knows what it entails. Is there a building manager/maintenance person who has been there a long time? Maybe they know.

  • 2 months ago

    The track lighting looks nice following the curves of the sofas from above. The back of that sofa looks like a big hug. Maybe you could reupholster them and slightly alter the cushions at the same time? Such a simple thing, to rearrange, but so impactful!


    I am on team DH, sorry! Could there be a compromise with an oval table or rectangle with rounded corners? Def one that has a leaf — you will need it when you host the 2027 GW GTG 😎

  • 2 months ago

    Would you consider sisal (or sisal look so it is comfy) over the floors? That would save a lot of time and hassle.


    I do think you can keep the LR area track lighting. After a while you won't even think about it.


    I love your view, especially that it also includes trees. Endless blue is less interesting.

  • 2 months ago
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    I’m for replacing the tile. While the sisal looks great in the photos, it leaves out your tile that will be seen in a wide expanse. If only it was the usual beige builder grade tile…..

    I get not wanting to go through the hassel of removal. If LVP can be put over it that would be the way to go.

    A Florida neighbor did just that and it looks fine.

  • 2 months ago

    I don’t like the sound of it.


    The LVP in the basement of our previous house made noise in only one tiny (stepping) area. The rental cottage none at all.


    I would not go smaller than 48" diameter for a table. Anything smaller is useless. I think the round ceiling feature limits appropriate table shapes. Try looking online to see photo examples.

  • 2 months ago

    You could change the lights on the tract lighting over your table in order to make it look less industrial - and more like lighting for over a table.


    You can use something like this:






    It will allow you to hang pendants or other lights from the track lighting (about $16). I'm not suggesting these pendants - this is just an example that was posted by a customer who purchased the adapters above:


    People have even used them to hang a chandelier from their track lighting -





    You can also change just the individual track heads in order to update the lighting over the table. With the right changes, it might look like a large interesting light fixture. Just an idea.

  • 2 months ago
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    We just returned from a week at the new condo. The valances are still up because they are screwed into the ceiling and that is too big a job for me to do (and repair the holes). We got a bunch of estimates and signed a contract for the flooring. We're putting in LVP flooring in the main area, the kitchen and the master bedroom. We're putting in marble tile flooring in the guest bedroom and in the foyer area.

    The table is still a chunky eyesore, but it will wait to be replaced until we figure out what furniture will come with us. Same with the track lighting over the table.

    On a related topic, I am waiting for an estimate to reupholster the two Robb and Stuckey kidney shaped couches. (Stanley Steemer came and tried to remove some of the stains but wasn't successful. )Not sure I'll do it, it all depends on how much it costs to move furniture from Philly to Fl. Plus we will need a crane for some of the larger pieces. I feel like 3Katz--my head is spinning!

  • 2 months ago

    Sounds like you made a lot of progress in a relatively short time! I know that feels good, even if there is more to do!


  • 2 months ago

    Welcome back! Hope you had a nice time there. Super that you got the floors going already!


    Between the costs of moving furniture and reupholstering it, just buy new unless you really love something, not just for itself but for the space.

  • 2 months ago

    Thats a lot of progress in a week. Love that you are possibly keeping the kidney shaped sofas. Id have been tempted to spend the time lolling on the beach, avoiding all decisions.

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