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New Rose Garden in VT, USA (Zone 5b)

Hello, all! I wanted to share my experience thus far with roses at our new-ish home in VT. I previously gardened outside Philly for ~7 years (and often read Moses’ posts for tips 😊). We are at the southernmost tip of the Champlain Islands, VT (Zone 5b). I planted 13 roses in June and July. All new plants – I did not bring anything from PA because I was worried about introducing something invasive. I used compost when planting and a small amount of Osmocote. No spray except Neem oil. I do remove diseased leaves periodically. We had a cool, wet spring and a dry summer with cycles of heat (no higher than 90 degrees). I hardly saw any thrips or aphids, though there were sawflies and some JP beetles, not too bad.


The big test will be how they do over winter! Unfortunately, I had a family emergency in November, and when I returned it was 10 degrees and snowing…so right now they are not winter protected, except for some compost. They are supposed to be winter hardy here, but we will see!

  1. The Duds!
  • Folksinger (Griffith Bucks, own root from Heirloom) – riddled with blackspot, powdery mildew, etc. all season. The blooms also faded to white almost immediately. Shovel pruned.
  • Grandma’s Red (own root from ARE) – Very healthy. Beautiful red flowers. HOWEVER, every single one of the buds balled and would not open without me forcing them open, regardless of the weather. Shovel pruned.

2. Did Well (a mix of “old” and new roses)

  • Umbra (Paul Barden, RVR) – This baby rose was delivered in late May, right before I left for a 9 day trip. I plopped it in the ground in a part-sun location. It grew slowly but steadily, no powdery mildew, minimal black spot. When it arrived, it had 2 flowers, which smelled amazing. I may move it to full sun in the spring.
  • Yolande d’Aragon (own root from Heirloom) – kind of scrubby looking foliage, but quite healthy. Bit of sawfly damage. One bloom in August, which was a pretty mauve color and smelled great.
  • Tricolor de Flandre (own root from Heirloom) – No black spot, bit of sawfly damage. Got a fair amount of powdery mildew in September. Has grown quite a bit. I am excited to see striped flowers, hopefully next June.
  • Distant Drums (Griffith Bucks, own root from Heirloom) – planted in July. Small amount of blackspot, mildew and sawfly damage, but not bad. Interesting looking mauve/peach/tan blooms. It bloomed the latest of all the roses, into late October.
  • El Catala (Griffith Bucks, own root from Heirloom) – slow growing, with very pretty burgundy foliage. Minimal disease. Large bi-color red and silver blooms with sunburned petal edges – but so pretty, even with the burnt edges.
  • Citiscape Bordeaux (own root from Heirloom) – bloomed steadily all summer, with some blackspot, mildew and sawfly damage, but not too bad.

3. The Best Performers!

  • #1 performer - *Frida Kahlo* (own root from Heirloom) – Amazing. No insect damage (except for very minimal JP beetles), no powdery mildew, minimal blackspot in center of plant. Almost constant blooming starting in late June of striped blooms, sometimes orangey red and sometimes a bit more pinky red.
  • Scarlet Moss – cool looking mini rose from High Country Roses. No powdery mildew, almost no black spot, no insect damage, small single deep red flowers and wee fuzzy thorns.
  • Eustacia Vye (Grafted from David Austin) – extremely healthy, no powdery mildew, minimal blackspot in center of plant, minor sawfly damage. Blooms in flushes with pretty peachy/pink shallow blooms. Japanese beetles do like it. Has grown steadily with no ill-mannered canes.
  • Quietness (Griffith Bucks, own root from Heirloom) – healthy until September, when it got some blackspot and powdery mildew, but I blame myself for planting it near mildewed cosmos. Steady blooming all season, looks beautiful, smells great. Only negative - Japanese beetles like it.
  • Lady of Shalott – I planted 1 own-root from Heirloom and 1 huge bare-root own-root (a special offer from David Austin) – they have both grown like gangbusters. The bare-root own-root had the largest root ball I had ever seen and grew numerous 6 ft arching canes.

Which was fine with me (I have plenty of space, just cold winters!) I will prune it in the spring to try and grow it as a shrub. Pretty, nodding apricot roses with faint smell. Minimal black spot, some sawfly damage, a bit of late season mildew.

And on order for next year – Shinaburedo and Juliet from High Garden Roses, as well as Countryman and Louise Clements from Heirloom…I am sure I will get carried away and order more. 😊



Distant Drums



Frida Kahlo (with Sanguisorba Lilac Squirrel and Phlox Ultraviolet)



Citiscape Bordeaux



Lady of Shalott



more Frida Kahlo!


Comments (18)

  • 9 months ago

    You might want to search for articles written by Mike Lowe. Once upon a time, not that long ago, he had two magnificent rose gardens in your part of New England. One was at his home, and the other was on a vacant lot (and there was a rose-less neighbor in between the rose gardens.)

    My husband said he'd buy that neighbor's house and we could live surrounded by roses without doing any of the work. But we didn't.

    Mike died in 2009 in Nashua New Hampshire. He was Director of the New England ARS district for many years and charged for his open gardens (and the money went to support district functions.)

    I seem to remember he wrote about roses in Fine Gardening. Also in American Rose Society (back then) monthly mags.

    marcie_now_5b_champlain_islands_vt thanked stillanntn6b
  • 9 months ago

    I visited Mike Lowe and his garden and Ann is correct. I would suggest, Marcie, you give roses 2-3 years to establish before you toss them. Some need more time to mature.

    Best wishes with your beautiful garden.

    marcie_now_5b_champlain_islands_vt thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 9 months ago

    Marcie, your roses are lovely!

    marcie_now_5b_champlain_islands_vt thanked susan9santabarbara
  • 9 months ago

    Those young roses look terrific. Looks like you are building a very interesting collection of varieties, too!

  • 9 months ago
    last modified: 9 months ago

    If you future rose selections include varieties that have received either/and ADR or A.R.T.S. designations, winter hardiness and disease resistance issues could be greatly reduced.

    There's nothing like NOT having to deal with black spot and powdery mildew, and having roses that are tip hardy. The joy of seeing vigorous, vibrant bushes that have reached their full potential is greatly increased.

    May I direct your attention to the new, True Bloom series of roses bred by Ping Lim. True Passion, True Love, True Inspiration, and True Sincerity are impressing me quite a bit.

    Moses.

    marcie_now_5b_champlain_islands_vt thanked Moses, Pitt PA, cold W & hot-humid S, z6
  • 9 months ago

    It might also be worth your while to check out Der Rosenmeister - (see link to the left) in Ithaca, New York. Very similar climate to yours, Zone 5b or 6a and a wonderful rose garden and nursery well worth a visit. They have quite a number of events scheduled for May and June.


    I visited there a couple of times when I lived in Ontario and very much enjoyed touring the garden and talking with Leon Ginenthal, the owner. He has a font of knoledge about growing roses in the Finger Lakes area, as well as a collection or rare varieties that do well there.


    Cheers,. Rick

    marcie_now_5b_champlain_islands_vt thanked Rideau Rose Lad
  • 8 months ago

    Thanks, all. I appeciate the tips! I will definitely check all of these resources out. It’s cold and snowy here right now, and I am REALLY looking forward to next May! 🌹

  • 7 months ago

    So pretty! Kudos on your new garden!

  • 7 months ago

    Your post absolutely doesn't apply to my conditions, but it's beautifully informative and so are the comments. I do love to see a good lively thread.

  • 7 months ago

    A pleasure to hear from another (new) cold weather rose gardener. Moving from one climate to a different one does involve a learning process.

    Best of luck with your new rose garden.

  • 7 months ago

    Take a look at a nursery pretty close to you in Canada. Lakeview Roses. They have many cold hardy roses grafted onto cold hardy multiflora rootstock.

  • 7 months ago

    I was not impressed with their hardy rose selection. Did I miss something?


  • 7 months ago

    Wonderfully healthy looking roses!! I adore your DD bloom...those colors!!! And your Frida Kahlo bushes are spot on perfect with lots of blooms. Well done! :)

  • 4 months ago

    Thanks everybody for your encouragement! All the roses made it through our intense winter (except maybe for Distant Drums, which looks sad and like it has diseased canes…we will see). They are slowly leafing out now. I am excited for the first blooms, and of course am thinking about more roses to plant 😊🦋

  • 4 months ago

    Yes, :) :) Thinking about more roses to plant...so am I. lol

  • 4 months ago
    last modified: 4 months ago

    I have not been on here, probably since early last summer. I saw your original post and smiled at this part: "when I returned it was 10 degrees and snowing…so right now they are not winter protected, except for some compost."

    Snow is the best and only winter cover I use. I had some over-winter losses in Spring 2025 when we had very little snow, but each one had a serious case of crown gall, so I dug them up, and even those roses had some growth beneath the surface -- I still wanted to be done dealing with their crown galls, and so I left those spots go fallow. Winter loss for me is very unusual unless I have disease problems during the previous growing season. Last year black spot was also problem. (The local farm supply store did not sell fungicides for gallon sprayers last year, and I used a systemic that went into the ground from Bayer, that was not as effective as spraying before rainfall).

    I had no winter losses this year which is typical. We had a bit more snow this winter, but still not very much snow, and our lowest temps were probably about -10 very briefly once or twice. It was a mild winter here.

    It is good to hear that either all roses made it for you, or at least less than 10% were lost. If you pull back the mulch from the center of the rose if it is warm it will warm the area around the rose and promote growth.

  • 4 months ago

    Thank you, Mark, that is very helpful! We had decent snow this past winter, which I am sure helped insulate them, though I did get some rabbit damage. Distant Drums was very prone to disease before the winter. I planted 3 new roses yesterday (Sultry Night, Louise Clements and Countryman). We will see how they do! 🦋