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frontyard sitting area

4 months ago
last modified: 4 months ago

front yard shrubs overgrown and dating my house. going to pull them out and thinking of putting in front yard sitting area (versus pouring a full porch). i want a cozy, casual but neat feel. I'm thinking of pea gravel. pros/cons? (I have some river rock on the side of my house as part of a french drain). how can I "contain" it - border ideas? hardscape/landscape. I'm just collecting ideas at this point. thanks!

Finally got the picture up. So - i would keep both japanese maples but remove 2 overgrown mini everygreen trees and the overgrown boxwood (in the middle). Probably remove the green shrub on right as well. the center area is where i would create a "patio" - an alternative to extending the front porch. I am wondering what material to use in the patio: pea gravel, slate. prefer something natural (not pavers). Then also wondering how to "enclose" the patio space with landscaping not hardscaping, i.e. not a brick wall but what type of plant. lastly, considering getting rid of the grass completely (maybe a part 2 of the project). i live in southeastern michigan and prefer native plants from here on out.

Thanks ahead for responses and thank you to the early responders!

Comments (19)

  • 4 months ago

    Was there meant to be a picture? To get useful suggestions people need to see the space. Also geographical location is necessary.

    runamile thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 4 months ago

    You need a picture of the area. I hate gravel. You can't walk on it barefoot and it can get lodged in your sandals. Most front yard sitting areas are small, so pavers aren't that expenive, because the area is very small.

    You should use the search to find pictures on Houzz and then save them to an ideabook.

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    runamile thanked Sigrid
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    Please don't pull out all of your shrubs. Many of them can be pruned successfully to a nice shape. A mature shrub or shrubs add much needed dimension, accent, screening, and a sense of privacy and coziness in a yard. It's also easier than planting something and waiting for it to grow and fill in. Photos would help us decide on which ones are worth keeping.

    For a french drain or dry streambed, I like to border it with low growing groundcover.

    runamile thanked tracefloyd
  • 4 months ago

    @tracefloyd - I agree, I'd like to repurpose whatever i can.

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    Larger rock that is not rounded interlocks and allows seating for sturdy furniture. A blower can be used on it without disturbing the gravel. Line it with a stone perimeter and landscape plants around it and pots. A path of flagstone or brick or just steppings stones in the lawn.

    Yes, keep the two Japanese Maples.

    A circular shape is nice and balances the straight lines of the structural elements.








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  • 4 months ago

    I'd ID the evergreens and probably just move them.


    For a Michigan native garden to screen a patio, I'd make a deep, layered planting , starting with big bluestem at the farthest reach. It grows 5 to 8 feet, more than enough to screen a seating area. You can get it in blue or smoky colors.

    Big Bluestem - Andropogon gerardii | Prairie Nursery


    Then, I'd I'd fill in with some shorter plants, sticking to the purpley hues. Purple love grass, for example. Penstemons, which come in green or dark foliage, white, pink and purple flowers. Liatris for some spiky plants. Some coneflowers. This should give you a range of heights, a coordinated palette (you can go dark and moody or put a lot of pinks and whites in for a lighter palette). Pearly everlasting will give you some silver foliage. The bigger the area between the tall big bluestem, the less hemmed in you will feel. Joe Pye Weed is another tall one that will do some good screening. I love the mauve color.


    You'll need to remove the grass before planting your native meadow plants. If you're doing a large area, which you'll need to do for screening, you should start with plugs. I like The Pollen Nation in NJ for my native plugs, but Prairie Moon which specializes Midwest natives and has an excellent reputation. Besides, I am looking for Northeastern woodland shade lovers, which is not what you're looking for. Nurseries that do plugs often have a short ordering window when all plants are available, so you'll need good planning.


    If you are just starting with a seating area, you'll want to place your plants carefully. One or two well-placed clumps of big bluestem might effectively screen a seating area. You could make a curved garden island in the middle of your lawn, then expand it into a meadow later, when you can divide some of your early plants, rather than buying new.


    This has a white Eupatorium (relative of Joe Pye Weed), coneflowers, a grass and what looks like a Baptisia. All should be native to you. Effective meadow plantings have large swaths of similar plants.

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    You can create a perimeter for the patio with stone or brick. Adding a curved shape would make the are more visually interesting.


  • 4 months ago

    Never ever ever would I use pea gravel to walk on or set furniture on. Do you have children? Pets? Pea gravel will migrate EVERYWHERE - the bottom of your washing machine, in the toy box, in your car, on your hardwood floors, in the rain gutters, and last but not least, in the grass. Ask me how I know.

  • 4 months ago

    Thank you for your warning! that was what i was thinking too.

  • 4 months ago

    Thanks everyone! You've inspired me.

  • 4 months ago

    I like your idea of front yard seating area - akin to the front porch. Consider a grass area. It will be defined by the plan of shrubs and plant areas around it, will accommodate different seating types that have bases that won’t sink into grass, and allows rain and snow to disperse. I formerly lived in southeast Michigan and there are wonderful landscape planners who could show you some options.

  • 4 months ago

    I'd consider grass in a defined area but I think we are trying to get rid of the grass in the frontyard and go with plants and trees. We have a nice backyard that is grass and we use that grassy area for games, etc. but the front yard grass does nothing.

  • 4 months ago

    Pollinator yards with hardscape.













  • 4 months ago

    Wonderful!


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