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Addition help - Ranch House

We’re planning an addition on the right side of our house and would love some fresh eyes on the layout!

Our main goals are:
• Add a primary bedroom
• Add a primary bathroom
• Add a walk-in closet
• Ideally create a larger pantry (The pantry on this blueprint is also ai suggested. That is not where our pantry is or can go. that is the hallway to our guest bathroom, ha. Please ignore that).


• We’re also considering bumping the kitchen out about 3 feet, although we’d like to keep the basic kitchen layout/function the same. Bumping it out 3ft would also give us more room for the closet and BR.


We met with an old-school architect, but unfortunately didn’t get very far with different layout ideas. The more blank drawing is what our architect is suggesting. But still need to add a pantry and figure out bathroom.


The other drawing that has an area highlighted in red is an AI-generated suggestion of what the addition could look like.

We’re definitely open to rethinking the layout and would LOVE to see ideas that we may not have considered. Especially ways to make the flow feel natural and maximize the space without making the addition feel awkward.


What would you do with this space? Any layout ideas, changes, or things you’d approach differently?

Thank you!!



Comments (28)

  • PRO
    last month

    First AI is not at this time even close to be a designer and even fruther from being an architect and both are needed in this case. Big no for me it to go through the bathroom to get to closet why is there an angled counter in thta kitchen , those are poor design always . A pantry that is not in the kitchen IMO is just a store room so just put it in the garage and then some true pullot pantries in a wall with the fridge for a really useable pantry .Have you already got permission to add this square footage to your lot ?How will the PR be accessed for guests ?

    Melinda Whitehouse thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    last month

    Good catch there Mark.

  • last month

    @Mark Bischak, Architect - We will be taking out those windows and make a solid wall. Considering some sort of built-ins for pantry if we can't find a good area to stick an actual pantry.


    @Patricia Colwell Consulting- yes we have permission from the city to add on. The ai was to just give us some sort of ideas, I agree with everything you stated. If you look at the other more blank blueprint, that is from us meeting with an architect. You'll see it is very different and more realistic. Just looking for ideas of where to put a pantry and maybe a better bathroom layout. But keeping a good flow.

  • last month

    I would give yourself a little bit more room in the foyer by moving the left wall of utility room in line with the right kitchen wall, if you can spare the room in the utility room. Make the entrance from the hallway into that space instead of the front entrance/foyer. No need for guests to be able to peek into that room.

    A lot of plans have the primary closet entrance from the bathroom, but I’ve never been a fan since you cannot access the closet if someone is in bathroom. And then there can be humidity and bathroom smells that you may not want for your clothes. Just something to consider.

    I do like the bathroom layout though and the bedroom seems spacious. You may want to have two separate windows so you don’t have to have a large window behind the bed, especially if you have a high headboard.

    Hope these thoughts help in your planning.

    Melinda Whitehouse thanked Emily
  • PRO
    last month

    Using artificial intellegents to design a home speaks volumes.

  • last month

    I'm surprised that you haven't included a photo of the front view of your house in order for people to see how the front elevation will look with the new addition added to the right side of the garage.

  • last month

    @dani_m08 Here is the front. We'll be updating the siding/exterior as well.



  • last month

    @PPF. Here is the existing plans. Sorry it's hard to read since this is the original copy from the city.


  • last month

    Is this how you want the front of the house to look like when the addition is finished?




    It looks off to me. I think maybe that's why PPF has asked the question in the above comment.

  • last month

    Dani, why is the garage smaller?

  • last month

    @bpath - I didn't even notice that! AI made it smaller - I assume to make it not look so prominent sticking out between the right and left sides of the house. I'm new to using AI - while the one I use generally does a pretty good job of not changing the proportions, it obviously did here.


    The first rendering it created made the new addition wider than the garage - but kept the garage the correct size. I assume to try to balance out the two sides. I didn't realize that when I tried to make the addition side the right length, it decided to make the garage smaller! Just another reason that AI doesn't replace having an architect/designer.


  • last month
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    I figured that’s what happened. The perils of AI.

  • last month
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    Melinda, would the addition lose the tree at the right? Also, would you still have room to access the back yard? If you have city permission, then you know what your setback requirements are, yes?

    And, just thinking about the garage, if you expand to the right, would you also consider expanding the garage, to add storage space? Without a basement, it seems as though convenient storage might be desirable.

    Another thought, along the lines of PPF’s, keep the nice two sources of light for the kitchen-dining, by moving the master bedroom next to the kitchen, not the dining, and put the bath and closet more alongside the garage, though it doesn’t have to go all the way to the front of the garage. This keeps the big window, makes the bedroom a little set back from the back lawn, and keeps the garage from sticking out in the middle as much, and even less if you add storage on the right side of it.

  • last month

    @bpath Yes we plan to lose the tree to the right of the house. Not pictured, but we have a large second garage on the far side of our property. We also have a finished basement and plan to expand that with this addition.

  • last month
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    Oh, I didn’t see the basement stairs, and if there is a second garage, never mind my comments about storage. (although extra storage in the attached garage is always nice for the bikes, trash cans, snow blower…)

  • last month

    If you have another garage, can you make a master out of the existing garage?

  • last month

    @RNmomof2 zone 5 No, we live in Wi and with our winters we would hate to lose our connected garage space for car coverage. Appreciate the idea though.

  • last month

    @PPF. I wish we could expand like that to keep our Kitchen windows that are facing East, however, our septic runs into the area you marked off. My husband is also set on keeping our roof line the same for practical reasons.

  • PRO
    last month

    Check with the local health department to see how close your addition can come to the septic field.

  • last month

    @Mark Bischak, Architect, we did. We can build up to about 25' off the right side (back right side) of the house. Building off the garage is too close to septic.

  • PRO
    last month
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    Not feasible. It would really downgrade the curb appeal, without any if the square footage gain offsetting the value loss. It would also be awkward functionally.

    You’d be better off moving to a bigger house if you aren’t willing to hire professional live human design help to come up with something sorta functional and attractive. Buying the bigger already built house is always the winner over an addition, money wise.

  • last month

    2 potential ideas that might better integrate the right-side addition into your front facade:

    1. if the street-facing part of the addition is a closet or bathroom area, have the street-facing windows mimic your garage door windows to maintain privacy & make the addition feel more intentional (if not tricking the eye into seeing a would-be 3 car garage), OR

    2. use the front, street-facing corner of the addition for a covered screened-in porch space (might require you to extend addition a bit off the back of the house to fit everything in). Besides being a nice place for morning coffee, the recessed negative space created by the screened area would feel less like an “in-your-face add-on” and more like an intentional design choice.

    Good luck with your decisions/ project. Our family ended up moving a few blocks for the bigger home, but I still kinda wish we had gone ahead with our addition plans on the home we left instead.

  • last month

    I wasn’t sure how much additional square footage your budget allows so here’s an idea being fairly generous with sq ft. It allows for plenty of storage and access to closets without having to go through the bathroom. I like that the sightline from the hallway into the bedroom suite gives you a window in the bathroom offering light to that front part.

  • last month

    @Emily thank you!

  • last month

    You’re welcome!

  • last month
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    Took me this long to realize how much AI played with dimensions in the original post.

    So looking at the current floor plan, I wonder…did you consider using the existing back bedroom as the master suite, maybe expanding the ensuite into a master bath, and using some of the master bath space as a closet? and adding a bedroom and bath in front of the existing Bedroom 2? It creates a U shape for the front, a little courtyard for the entry. And, you don’t walk out of your bedroom to immediate work areas like laundry, mudroom, garage entry, kitchen, but rather past the serene living room to your morning coffee.

    And then you could still add space to the right, not as protruding as the proposed suite, for pantry, maybe larger mudroom or laundry with side/back door to the yard.

    (incredibly rought concept drawing, no scale, done with finger on ipad, no app. Please forgive)



  • PRO
    last month

    "Took me this long to realize how much AI played with dimensions in the original post."

    I have been wondering the actual length of 20'-0" for days.