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planting darwin tulips

21 years ago

I plan to plant Darwin Hybrid tulips, and I live in zone 6. I want to make sure that I plant them at the right time for my zone (Philadelphia area). Am I correct that I should not plant these bulbs before mid October and no later than early November? Please keep in mind that these are Darwin Hybrids; are Darwin Hybrids supposed to be planted earlier than other tulips? (The reason I ask is because the company from which I ordered says they are planning to ship my Darwin Hybrid tulip bulbs some time during September 19 to September 30). I have just finished researching about the correct time to plant tulips in general (NOT DARWINS but tulips in general), and everyone says to plant from mid October to early November. This confuses me. Could the planting time be earlier for Darwins. Of course I plan to ask the bulb company from which I ordered why they choose to ship when they said(maybe they have a special reason); however, I would like to have a fellow gardener's opinion to compare with. Just when AM I supposed to plant these Darwin Hybrid tulip bulbs? I also want to make sure how deep they should be planted for them to be extra perennial. I realize that Darwins are perennial by nature, but I want to make double sure!! I already dug the trench where they will be planted and lined it with chicken wire to keep out squirrels (a must on my property!) Therefore, it would be inconvenient for me to redo it and dig it any deeper. I have already dug down ten inches!. Is ten inches deep enough? (I am told that planting deeply is necessary for larger bulbs such as Darwins in addition to helping them to be even more perennial than they already are).

Also, I will be mixing in Bulb Buddy fertilizer with the soil (which is good for perennializing since it releases the nitrogen slowly). I plan to spread a paper thin layer of this soil/fertilizer mixture on the bottom of the trench, to fill in between the bulbs with this mixture, and to cover the tops of the bulbs with no more than a paper thin layer of this mixture. Is this correct? Is this enough or is it also necessary for me to mix in cow manure and/or sand; if so, how much and how should I apply? (Would you mix in the manure and/or sand or just do a one inch layer of manure or sand?-maybe with a one inch manure layer at the bottom of the trench and then a one inch layer of sand on top of this; then the bulbs would be planted on top of these two layers; of course, in this case,the bulbs would be planted at a depth of eight inches deep). If using sand, what type should I use (cement sand or the other kind?). (Please realize that I have already mixed in pebbles and small stones regularly throughout the soil which has been dug out of my trench for drainage). This soil is now sitting in a big pile until planting time, when I will mix my Bulb Buddy fertilizer into it, plant my Darwin tulips, and fill the trench up once again.

Although I like to plant tulip bulbs three inches apart, it is my understanding that Darwin Hybrid tulip bulbs should be planted no closer than six inches apart if you want to grow them as perennials, because these plants grow to be quite large, and roots will compete for space and nutrients. Is this correct?

As in the past when I have received wonderful advice from fellow gardeners, I am always grateful for such generous sharing of experiences. I do not know what I would do without advise from my fellow gardeners and hope

that my responses to questions from others has likewise helped!

Thank you,

Helb1

Comments (4)

  • 21 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The planting time for Darwins is no different from any other tulip. Mid October to early November sounds ideal for your area but don't consider that a fixed timetable. They need to be planted before the ground freezes (although it is possible to plant after this time with some difficulty and risk) and they should not be planted until the soil has cooled from summer.

    It sounds like the chicken wire is in the bottom of the trench? I think you'll find it needs to be on the top to stop squirrels digging up your bulbs.

    Planting deeply may help tulips last an extra year or two when they would otherwise decline, but won't turn then from annuals to perennials. Try mixing in some limestone gravel with your soil. Drainage is important and lime also appears to bge important. Beyond that its down to your weather which you can't do much about.

    Three inches apart is for a spectacular one-year display, it is too close for a long-lasting perennial display.

    I wouldn't use any manure at all for planting tulips. Tulips don't need rich soil, they need good drainage. I don't know Bulb Buddy fertiliser, but I wouldn't use a 9-9-6 fertiliser, time release or otherwise, on tulips unless you are gardening on a beach. Tulips actually need no fertiliser at all to flower the first year, you can grow them in a glass of water. The correct nutrients are then needed to build the bulbs for the following year. Use a low-nitrogen fertiliser in autumn and apply a balanced fertiliser during spring growth if your soil is not very fertile.

  • 21 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Seconding what shrubs and bulbs said....no fert....plant deeply and plant in a well drained spot.
    If you want your tulips to last longer, they should be planted with things that don't need added water during the summer.
    I have planted tulips in the snow....rushing to get as many planted as I could before it got too miserable!
    Don't worry....just dig a good deep hole and plant them!
    Linda C

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I HAVE PLANTED HUNDREDS OF TULIPS AROUND MY GARDENS FOR THIS SPRING. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW WELL THEY DO. I HAVE PLANTED THE APRICOT BEAUTIES, ANGELIC DOUBLES, LAVENDER DOUBLES AND OTHER FANCIER HYBRIDS. MY QUESTION IS THIS:
    IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO HAS PLANTED ANY OF THESE NEW HYBRIDS AND NOT DUG THEM UP AND HAD THEM COME BACK AS PRETTY THE FOLLOWING SPRING? I KNOW I AM GOING TO HAVE TO DIG MOST OF THEM UP AS I HAVE AN AUTOMATIC WATERING SYSTEM THAT WILL WATER THE AREAS THESE BULBS ARE IN.

  • 18 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Gardenartist, you will get more answers if you start a new thread with your question. Also, it's best not to use all capital letters because it hurts my tender little eyes:)

    On to your question...
    You would have to either dig up the hybrids and replant... or just replace the whole lot. With the exception of Darvins, Triumphs, Gregii and Impressions, tulips in my garden have about a 20-30% return rate for the second year.

    (I just replace them, I like to try new things.)

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