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The Dark Garden

17 years ago

I just wanted to post a few pictures.

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This is a few of the vegetables that grew well this year. Had alot of insect problems (my fault) Corn problems because of too much nitrogin. I'm interested in growing wheat, barley and grain seeds. If their anyone who has some to trade let me know. I have tropical seeds and some Colombian corn for trade.

GSD

Comments (22)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Great pictures. Looks great. Makin' me hungry!! What's that one in the fourth picture from the bottom? I am sooo growing vegetables next season. Seems like such a waste of money to buy the stuff.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    That's just an ear of corn that fell off in to the media. Just shows how without our aide corn would die off. All those vegetables were grown in 3 liter recycled plastic bottles.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    OK, that last post answered my question. All grown in liquid medium in 3 liter bottles. Unbelievable! Wow! And look what you have been able to fit into a very small space! Are you doing this as as experiment! Where are you located?

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    No their growing in a media mix that's reuseable 2 to 1 new mix. This is my regular garden I put out every year. The peppers are 3 years old that are over wintered. Their ripped out the pods each year, repotted into 16oz cup in light closets for the winter. Holds 32 plants per shelf. I'm in PA zone 6. Growing in the pods allows me the chance to start the first of April and the garden is still up now. This method uses 1/5 the material and 1/10 the water. It can be done organicly or inorganicly verticaly or horizonicly. The watering is done with those liter bottles. One liter waters 8 plants a day. 2 liters when the temps reach 75, 3 when it reaches 90.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    That truly is cool. However I had to laugh at the squirrel picture. Just chillin out until you leave then LUNCH!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Your vegetables look great!
    What varieties are you growing?

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    That's a long list. Swish Chard, Black Beauty Eggplant,Cucumbers,Emerald Okra, Chinese Cabbage, Golden Globe Cabbage,all kinds of peppers,(including Bhot Jolokia)it might be easier to say what I'm having trouble with - Brocilli.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I am also a vegetable gardener, mostly heirloom tomatoes, greens, beans, etc.

    Do you mean broccoli?. I have planted broccoli rabe, uses less space than broccoli and I can pick small heads at the time.

    Next growing season I will be looking to plant some good variety of peppers sweet, hot.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    You know you don't have to wait. 3 pictures up is what I call Waterfall Pods. I'll have to post pictures of my Waterfall Wall. 150 pods in vertical structures, 15 to a stand. I use light closets which holds 108 vegetables (or tropicals) to germinate my seeds to transfer to the pods. I have vegetables growing all winter. Forgive me my spelling it's a constant tickle to me.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I will be very thankful for your help. You are so creative!

    I have to grow a lot of tomato seedlings more than I usually do, because I am going to share with my neighbors (first time gardeners).

    The other vegetables, tropicals, fruits, I need to propagate for me, since I cannot get the varieties I want locally.

    I may even plant Bhot Jolokia in the future. lol.
    When I was In India and Nepal for a while I had very hot food!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Great garden Georgeiii. Thanks for you post. Is a 'pod' a 3 liter pop bottle or something else?

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Also...What brand is the media mix??? Can't find it in our Seattle stores

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Georgiii has posted here for years and he has yet to give anyone enough specifics to replicate what he does although he has offered to sell the info on ebay.

    These days I suspect he just posts to hook people and then contacts them offlist for the sales pitch since his forum posts were all deleted by the moderators in his first year here (because he asked for money to reveal his details on the forum).

    Sorry for those of you who are interested in the idea of a super compact growing method, Georgiii isn't going to give you the information you seek. He is just going to appear in the late fall of each year and post the same thing in an attempt to sucker those not familiar with his pattern.

    He is essentially a clever spammer/troll who has managed to go for 4 or so years without being banned because he got smart enough to not ask for money on the forum and I suspect has also created multiple accounts so he can respond to his own posts with praise.

    Please, pardon my interruption and carry on. I debated for a couple weeks to respond at all or just let his posts die off and still am not sure I am making the right choice. Maybe next year I will just ignore his crap.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Justaguy - Appreciate the heads up. He can prove us all wrong by posting soil and seed details on this thread.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Justaguy - Appreciate the heads up. He can prove us all wrong by posting soil and seed details on this thread.

    Yes, he can. I invite him to stop beating around the bush and just spell out his method in the same manner other folks have done on this forum.

    Al(Tapla) has labored for years trying to help people. Several have developed their own take on self watering containers and over the years perfected the design and freely offer their plans to others. Some who are organically inclined have freely offered their ideas on how to make organics work in a container setting.

    The idea is that this is a forum for the free exchange of ideas and those with really good ideas spend their own time and money on their efforts and then turn around and offer what they have with no cost and in the clearest manner they can in the hope they might benefit someone.

    If Georgiii would take this same route I would welcome him with open arms, but after 4 years of his crap I am not holding my breath.

    Perhaps this will be the year things change? If they do I will readily let bygones be bygones.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    >>stop beating around the bush and just spell out his method

    One thing's certain, some of the containers are not simply 3liter bottles. A close look at the corn containers shows a 2nd bottle supporting the first probably for water. That would mean a wick must join both bottles.

  • 17 years ago
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    Ho..hum If anybody can find anyone I sold something to please show it. If anybody bought something or was pitched to buy something from me please say so. Post their names right here. As for posting for years it's true I have been posting for years on my methods. Everything has been posted on how to make these pods years ago. Look up ChristianWarlock on Photobucket for the pictures. In fact the very same people posted how I was tearing plants out of the ground and stuffing them in bottles. Well I guess part of that is true but not how they meant it. But like I said look it up, I don't mind.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Hello Again
    Still looking for those names? Excuse me if I don't wait. Now since it's mentioned, there are 7 different types of pods. There's the Nanny Pods

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    Nanny pods can be made 2 ways. Add a wick to draw water up or make a growth chamber by adding an air stone instead of a wick. Growth chambers are interesting, you might want to look those up.

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    I use these for most of my plants. They can be broken down during the winter months and placed in stands as Waterfall pods.

    Now these are Garden Pods.

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    Usually I use these for the first year's growth. Yes the produce fruit the first year but it's really from the 2nd year on that they produce the most.

    So basicly that's the pods.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Thanks georgeiii Your garden rocks!

    Looked up your how-to on Photobucket. It looks easy to do and I think your idea will work well on many different types of vegetables.

  • 17 years ago
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    Now I should explain my "concept" of growing.
    The toxicitity level of the main three root types air, water and media are directly proportion to their reproductive capacity and inverse proportional to their degree of differentiation.
    Take the first part. Toxicitity, What does that mean in relationship to the plants roots. Usually it means Ph levels. If you can do away with worry over ph levels you can control what kind of roots from the "three types" you want to produce. But here I have to take a change in direction to explain something else. Organic rubble. Think of an Orchid in the rain Forrest. In the trees a seed gets stuck by chance in the nook of a tree and starts to grow. Theres nothing in there but pieces of leaves and twigs that got stuck there. Washed over time and time by rain water. Broken down to just rubble stuck in a drain.
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    Think of that as "Organic rubble." Doesnt add anything but contributes to structure. That structure absorbs water and therefore nutrient that comes with it. So..far were looking at a rain water neutral ph level structure that absorbs water in an environment the type of root we want to produce to takes root in. Which is why it works in a small space. It might help to think of it as a small steam powered engine. Just add water. Now we have to think about the actual root it self. Their "directly proportion to their reproductive capacity" meaning. In relationship to length, thickness and numbers do they show differences. Then what types of environment do these different roots grow in or in my case how to get an environment that all three root types will grow in. See in present gardening you cant mix up the types of roots your growing. Thats the inverse proportional to their degree of differentiation" part. Follow me so far. You cant grow water roots in soil, air roots in water and so forth. But you can give them each their own area to grow in. But to form that type of separation without dividers using only the "drain stopping materials". Now knowing this you step out of the horse and buggy days of Gardening into the little Steam Engine age. Using the term engine implies outside power source. Fuel. In this case its the sun. Simple sunlight. Even street lights at night in the summer is enough to get the engine running. Hence, the pod. For those of you who havent heard it this method allows you to water 80 full sized vegetable plants with only 2 ½ gallons of water per day. Thats corn, tomato, peppers, cucumber, okra, etc.etc,. Yes its true its hand watering but theres no shoveling, very little weeding, no leeching, it can be set at any height, grown on any surface, even contaminated ground, on fences rooftops, weighs very little, can be moved with ease, made from recycled soda bottles you make yourself, you can make your own fertilizer for free and the media is reusable at 2 to 1 ratio for the next season. Not only that but because of planning the root system the plant can stay for years in the same pod. Even overwinter vegetables for years to come. Whats not to like. Now too, add another chamber (bottle) and you get a "Growth Chamber". ( A fourth chamber) That little chamber between the upper neck and the lower water level. Where the roots are bathing in warm, moist evaporate air just dripping off every inch of the roots. . This is like going from a horse and buggy to fuel injection.

    Oh, any by the way? Hope your still looking for that list of names of people I sold something to. Because I have another idea. How to produce liner motion without the input of any fuel. And just like the Dark Garden Method anyone will be able to do it. It's made from recycled Styrofoam chips.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I am very impressed with your knowledge, especially you being so young.
    You just put a meaning to the phrase "Thinking out of the box"
    Keep posting, what you have to say is certainly very interesting.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Oh, any by the way? Hope your still looking for that list of names of people I sold something to.

    I didn't say you did or didn't sell anything to anyone. I said in your first year of posting your "Dark Garden" stuff you frustrated many by refusing to give details on your method people were asking for. You then asked why should you give up such valuable knowledge for free and suggested it could be purchased from ebay.

    The moderators then stepped in and removed all of your posts from the forum for a TOS violation. Your next years didn't go much better. You got people hooked and then started annoying them.

    I am not looking to get into a fight with you, I am perfectly content to ignore you and all of your posts from here on out.

    But don't play stupid with me. There are too many here who remember you and your behavior well. You may recall I was the one who hosted your images for you and gave you the code to use to make them show up in posts because you didn't know how to do it. You burned folks here, friend.

    If you wish to start anew that's fine by me, as I believe in second (and third) chances, but don't play stupid like you aren't the same geogeiii of the last 3 or so years.

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