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A few questions

19 years ago

I am really new to raising large birds. Here goes.

I have 2 Roman Tufted geese, ? M/F they are only 4.5 months old, got them when they were about 3-4 weeks. They are pretty friendly well I'm the mom who they love, my husband is the dad they attack when his back is turned and everyone else they hate. Sounds about right I understand.

1. We are interested in getting 2 more geese but this time Pilgrim, will they get along?

2. We are not sure if we have a M or F and plan on waiting to get the pilgrims until the spring when we know for sure. One roman is slightly larger than the other but there are a week or two difference in age. What happens if they are both male or both female, how does that work with getting another pair.

3. We built a 10x10x16 (we were getting guinea hens so comes the height)is this big enough for two Pilgrim also?

4. I worry about them during the winter months I live up in massachusetts and get pretty cold. We have two doors one goes into a predator proof 10x10x6 dog kennel. That door we leave open right how because it is still warm. The door to the fenced in yard we close and lock at night (the fence is high enough to protect them during the day but not when the night predators come out) They have 3 window that open and sometimes when it is really hot I leave themm open (they have screens on them and they are high) The doors are half doors so when winter comes during the day only the bottom half of the door will be left open but what should I do during the night? Can they be closed completely in?

4. They sleep on a bedding of shavings and layer of hay with a bale of hay on each side of the nest for privacy. Every morning before work I clean off the top layer of hay of poop and lay more hay down, every night when I get out of work if they have slept in the nest at all during the day (they ususaly stay out) I clean it again and lay clean hay down. Every Saturday I clean the enitre nest out and replace with clean shavings and hay. Should I be doing this for them, should they be making their own nest? Should I just clean it out a place the shavings down and let them build the nest? Should I clean the poop out and let them put the hay back? With the goats I clean the barn out twice a week up until it gets below freezing then everyday I pile hay on top of the old hay, with the cold the ammonia doesn't smell and the heat generates through the hay and keeps them really warm. I make sure they never sleep on wet bedding. Do I do this with the geese or does the down keep them warm enough?

Sorry I guess that's all I have for now. They are a delight and I already have a ton of funny stories. Thanks for your help.

Lee Ann

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  • 19 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Geese are wonderful but they can take some managing. I don't know how to tell with Romans which is the male or female other than turning them upside down and checking it out. Even then, if you're not accustomed to sexing geese it is possible to make mistakes, particularly with young ones. With most geese there are clues. The females have deep voices and make conversational noises. The males are shrill and tend to call. The males also have a more vertical stance and hold their heads high. The females are more demure.

    Two nice things about Pilgrims (I have a trio) is that they are seldom aggressive and it is easy to tell at a glance which are males and which are females. They are really sweet geese, but some of them are easily bullied by more aggressive species. If you are going to add Pilgrims, if you can get the Romans to adopt them as babies there is a better chance of them all getting along.

    Are you planning to breed your geese? If so, you need to realize that to have purebreds you must keep the breeds totally separate during the breeding season. (Approximately February to June.) Otherwise you will have crossbreeds, which are harder to sell and bring very little. If you are raising geese solely for your own table, this is less of an issue, but still should be kept in mind.

    A ten by ten building is certainly big enough for four geese and I have always locked mine in at night. You should put hardware cloth over those windows from the inside because predators can tear through screens like it is paper.

    Sounds like you give your geese plenty of care in the bedding department. My geese only make a "nest" when they are laying eggs. Otherwise they just plop down where they please, usually near the water bucket. If you feed the geese in their house then they need water as well.

    Don't worry about leaving the half-door open in winter - it's okay. Just make sure there is a hook so it doesn't slam shut and block them out. Geese are extremely hardy and usually prefer to be outdoors, but they need to have the choice to get out of the weather. Most of the time when their feet get cold they lay down on the snow and pull their feet up into their downy feathers to warm them. They will shove their bill deep into their back feathers to warm it as well. The rest of the goose is weatherproof. :)

    I think the ventilation from the open door keeps the odours down and makes them healthier. My geese have their "pop-hole" on the south side, which helps, since the wind is usually westerly or northerly. The breeds with knobs on their bills can suffer from frostbite there, but the ones descended from the European greylag (includes Pilgrims and Romans, Toulouse, American Buffs, Embdems etc.)

    We are in Zone 5 and can also get some very cold weather. There were two days last winter when I kept the geese inside... The snow was too deep to graze and the cold and wind were bitter. They weren't happy about it but it didn't hurt them to stay in. Some other cold days, I only let them out for the mid-day hours... about 11 am. to 3 pm. Since I feed them when I put them in for the night, they are usually amenable. In any case, they are easily herded unless they are in a naughty mood and want to play catch-me-if-you-can.

    My geese prefer their feed (organic chicken mash and/or scratch) wet and I am glad of this. If they leave some in winter, there is no danger of them eating dry food after the water bucket freezes. The feed freezes first. Geese can be susceptible to choking if they are eating grain etc. with no water available. A heated bucket is a good idea.

    I hope you can sort through this hodge-podge and pull the information that is of use to you. I'm afraid I just blurted. But I think it addresses most of your concerns.

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