That was supposed to read surprise grape roots! geez I am such a rookie!

Great! Some root better then other, what are these?

Hi Konrad, these cuttings are marechal foch hardy to zone 4 and very early ripening(around early-mid August here).They are classed as a wine grape but are very good for fresh eating although the berries are small.They might be worth a try in your area if you don't mind laying the vines down and covering them for the winter. I'm going to see if any of my other grape varieties will root the same.I removed them from the fridge and tossed them into the sump hole.I'll update in a few months.
Did you have any luck getting roots on your grapes last year? What varieties where they?
I have a variety that is listed as being zone3, it's called kandiyohi very large berries but I'm not sure if your season would be long enough to ripen them(late September here).

Glenn

Thanks Glenn!

They were TROUBADOR and SABREVOIS from Bert [Link]

I put them in plastic bag with some potting mix and put on top of hot water tank, some took, my wife had about the same luck by just putting them in the water...but don't forget, she's got a green thumb! Not much has grown in the ground and not much snow cover this winter...time will tell.

I know what your'e talking about later maturing fruit's...almost not worse the effort, for my climate anyway.
I'm planting a new raspberry batch this spring and I want to get all early, [summer] maturing plants.

Still, I would be interested in your early grapes, perhaps we can trade with something?
Any plum, pear, apple?

Please PM me if interested

Here is a link that might be useful: BERT DUNN'S COLD-HARDY VINES

Do you know of anyone in the lower 48 that has this vine available as dormant cuttings?

PETIT AMI (DM8313-1) - Mario Muscat x ?), white wine.

Konrad,are you looking for wine grapes or fresh eating/ juice grapes? the varieties you listed above are classified as being wine.The only red wine varieties I have that might be hardy enough for your climate are Radisson (ES 5-17) and Rubiana.I can't comment on average ripening times as they are a new item added in 2010. We did get a small crop of berries last year but my sons pet turkey ate them before we got to try any!The only other reccomendation I have are germanica and valiant which are very early, both have that welches grape juice kind of flavor to them.
Boizeau, the only source I knew of for cuttings State side was Lon Rombough and I hear that he has passed. In Canada we have two great sources, Bert Dunn and Peter Salonius. You can check Konrads link to Bert Dunn and see the numerous selections he has.Unless someone else chimes in with a source looks like you are going to pay big money for a potted plant with all the shipping charges.

Glenn

At this point it doesn't really matter what grape...as long it's red, hardy and early, the Valiant, which I have is just starting to give fruit, but just barley ripening late season.

Konrad, Valiant is probably your best bet for a sure cropper.If you look on that little fat wino web site there is a vinyard in Quebec that grows Radisson (ES 5-17)and they claim to get good crops after minus 36 degrees Celsius.If you want to try them I can send you out some plants as soon as the ground thaws out.
There used to be a fellow on here a few years back who lived just outside Sherwood Park.If you can track him down he might be able to provide some insight on what works in your area. I think he was known as "prairie grapes"?

Think I know who you're talking about, he's name is Kim, he
promised me several times for cuttings but never followed up.

He swears for the white grape here and it is the Vandal Cliche. This would be my only other Joice to try, he promised me cutting from this but after a couple of year bagging I went to Bert and he didn't have any or didn't want to give any. I bought the other cutting from him.

Believe it or not, some years, especially last winter, many of the Valiant growers had a set back, all vines above ground froze down to the ground....mine too.

I did read about the Germanica
Is that Radisson ES 5-17 the same as Bert shows called ES 5-17 - Swenson hybrid?
Not sure what fat wino web site you're talking about...do you have a link? Cant find anything on the web of this.

Grapes are welcome summer treats that can be eaten fresh, processed into jellies, jams, juice or even fermented into wine. Grapes are adapted to many soil types, and can be quite long-lived. There are basically two kinds of grapes grown in North Carolina, bunch grapes and muscadine. Bunch grapes produce berries in large clusters, and grow best in the mountains and piedmont areas. In coastal plain areas, Pierce's disease kills or shortens the life expectancy of many popular bunch grapes. Muscadine grapes, exemplified by the Scuppernong variety and noted for having smaller clusters, are not affected by this disease. In these areas the kinds of grapes that may be expected to give the best results are muscadine

I remember that cold snap you guys had a couple years back, it got down to minus 46C! man that is cold! I did a little mr.google searching on that Vandal Cliche and it seems as though it is good to about minus 35C. Check the link to the little fat wino site where they show the results of some trials on various varieties.
Yes the ES-5-17 is the same swenson hybrid that Bert has,it looks like it may work for you as Alain Breault claims it to be good too minus 38C in their trials. check the link I hope it works.

http://www.littlefatwino.com/breaultE.html

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.littlefatwino.com/breaultE.html

Thanks...I've been looking at that link before, checked with
Bert and he's got some, including the Vandal Cliche, not sure why this one is a hot item here with Kim, there are hardier one's,...like for minus 40C. I'll let Bert decide what's best for me.