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Persimmon - fruit fail - again.

19 years ago

This is about the 4th year for my Fuyu persimmon. I gave it the first 3 years - thinking it had to grow up. Had only one fruit last year - that dropped.

This year, the tree had many blossoms and fruit set. My thought was it needed more chill hours, which it got this year. But a few days ago, I noted all of the tiny fruit sets had fallen again.

According to all of the literature, it is supposed to be self-fertile, but either that is wrong or something is not to this little trees liking. I might add - it looks nice and healthy otherwise. Would make a good ornamental, but I want fruit.

Any help?

Bejay

Comments (4)

  • 19 years ago

    I dug mine up and trashed it after waiting 6 years for it to do something. It never even bloomed, and grew very little.

    In case it was a fluke, I now have a new one, larger and beautiful. If it too fails to produce, I won't wait another 6 years before removing it(G).

    Lisa

  • 19 years ago

    Don't you know that most nursery folks in California think that there are only two types of persimmons? The Hachiya and Fuyu. So it could be that what you got was not actually Fuyu, perhaps something mislabeled as such. To this very day, you can still buy persimmons in California that has tag which says Fuyu (Jiro) Persimmon, and horrors, they imply it to be the same when the Fuyu and Jiro are two very distinct cultivars!!! Look at your tags Californians! Also heard in some CRFG members that the confusion has permeated the industry that even some of the reputable nurseries that are supposed to sell Fuyu actually came from still another non-astringent cultivar. So we are not really sure about the exact cultivar. At least I applaud DWN for having recognized and sell several cultivars of persimmons. I have collected 43 cultivars of persimmons so far, and will try to test for their differences and performance her in my yard. I am suspecting that two of my original trees bought were also mislabeled but I have something more credible to compare them to.

    Anyway Bejay, either a mislabeled cultivar or what you may have might be a classic manganese deficiency problem. You can get Mn supplements if you fertilize with cirus fertilizer with minors, surely look for minors that has Mn, Fe, and Zn which usually are the most common types. Fertilize with this citrus fertilizer now. There are two types of citrus fertilizer formulation, one has a higher value of N which is intended for growing, the other one has a lower value of N, and is intended just before blooming for citruses. So apply the same way next year, just before the last major rains in the season, which is about February. I the rains didn't come, then hose them down to the root zone.

    Hopefully this should eliminate your Mn problem.

    Another approach is to buy STEM or other formulations that contains Mn such as those for tomato bloom fertilizer from GreenAll.

  • 19 years ago

    Bejay, You have gotten some good advice already. I just wanted to give you some of my personal experience. My father planted a FUYU Persimmon tree for me when I bought my first house. He picked the Perfect location, rear of the house, FULL sun, everything was perfect. Years pass on and there were SO many times that I wanted to remove the tree because it did not produce fruit. I left it because my father planted it. After 6 very LONG years, it started to produce and produce it has. Last year was incredible, bags and bags and bags. Friends and family and neighbors were closing doors on us. Seriously! Everyone was tired of Persimmons. In the end, my sister made Jam with it. So be careful what you wish for. I thought that this year would be slow since last year was so fruitful but it appears so far to be another bumper crop. If you are anywhere near San Gabriel Valley in Sept, Oct and November, I would be more than happy to share :o) Good Luck!

    Nancy

  • 19 years ago

    So nice to have other's experience here - much obliged.

    Actually, all my other fruit trees were so loaded - that I just couldn't imagine why only that persimmon failed - especially after it set lots of blossoms, set fruit then dropped.

    I don't have the heart to tear it out - it is a beautiful tree - so will give it a new "lease" and hope I live long enough to see it perform.

    Will try the mn, fe and zn approach and try to give it a bit more TLC as well. We have had a water problem this year, so perhaps a bit more water would also be useful.

    Nancy - I can appreciate your windfall woes. My "cots" are outperforming this year too. I really can't complain otherwise, because living near the coast, rather than inland - we missed the freezing temps, that many of my inland neighbors experienced. But it was cold enough - to give us the needed chilling hours, that we usually miss.

    Bejay