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Critique my seeding idea

17 years ago

OK folks,

I get to start with a clean slate new construction lawn :) Once the final grade is done in about 4 weeks, I will have a nice loam base of 4 inches in place. I have about two-thirds of an acre of lawn to establish


My issues is seed selection. I don't want to invest in expensive seed right now as I suspect I am going to get some washout, etc.

My plan is as follows:

Buy the Scott's Select Turf from Lowes which has Merit KBG, a TTPR which I don't recall,a and Boreal Creeping Red Fescue.

This fall I will heavily aerate and seed with the MAG3 or slight derivation therof.

What are the potential the pitfalls of this method?

And before you mention about Spring seeding, you can plant grass in July and have success in Maine. Last frost is typically late May....

Comments (6)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Why waste money on that cheap grass at all then? Might as well start with what you really want and then fill in what washes out rather that have to kill off the cheap stuff and do a total do-over.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Put the good stuff in first. Don't wait for an overseed.
    Washouts are easy to repair.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Work smarter, not harder!

    > "This fall I will heavily aerate"

    Do you expect a "nice loam base of 4 inches" to become compacted in a few short months? Seed while your graded soil is soft and friable.

    Merit KBG, a TTPR and Boreal Creeping Red Fescue do not compare to the Mag3. Commons v's elites. Boys v's men.

    Also for Maine, Moonlight, Kingfisher and Blue Velvet has been researched and recommended. See link below.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Maine - Velvet Moon Blend

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    cheap seed from a big box store is not really that cheap. I would be more inclined to seed straight up Midnight KBG now (inexpensive in 50lb bags) and overseed a Mag3 in the fall than to buy any cheap seed now -- ALL of which will be considered weed material next to elite KBG. I don't see why you just don't buy MAG3 now--you have the perfect opportunity of starting from scratch. In terms of overall cost, seed cost is really not that bad, especially when spread over years of enjoyment.

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    garyinchicago, every time I try to get to that link, my browser crashes.

    Can you cut and past the details of the link into a message box?

    Where would can I find that exact blend for purchase?

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Sorry, try these URL's then. Copy and paste to your browser.

    Moonlight http://www.turf-seed.com/product.php?product_id=15

    Kingfisher http://sroseed.com/find/showproduct.php?id=41
    Kingfisher http://sroseed.com/Products/PDF/Kingfisher_TS.pdf

    Blue Velvet http://www.pickseedwest.com/documents/BlueVelvet.pdf

    For purchasing, here's a list of seed dealers from last year. Inventories change, so be sure to ask for what you are looking for.
    Be sure to ask for 'sod quality' (small extra charge)

    All Pro www.allprohort.com New York 516-777-8668
    Bluegrass - Apollo, Award, Blackstone, Bluestar, Bordeaux, Champagne, Coventry, Denim, Envicta, Goldrush, Guiness, Jefferson, Kenblue, Liberator, Mercury, Midnight, Midnight II, Moon Shadow, Nottingham, P-105 (Princeton), Palouse, Prosperity, Rambo, Ronde, Serene, Touchdown, Tsunami, Voyager, Washington

    Tall Fescue - Coronado Gold, Coyote, Coyote II, Dominion, Dynasty, Masterpiece, Olympic Gold, Picasso, Rembrandt, Southeast, Tomahawk, Velocity, Wyatt

    Fine Fescue - Ambassador Chewings Fescue, Ambrose Chewings Fescue, Aurora Gold Hard Fescue, Badger Creeping Red Fescue, Berkshire Hard Fescue, Big Horn Sheeps Fescue, Black Sheep Sheeps Fescue, Chewings Fescue, Creeping Red Fescue, Dawson Slender Creeping Red Fescue, Discovery Hard Fescue, Jamestown Ii Chewings Fescue, Jasper Ii Creeping Red Fescue, Pennlawn Creeping Red Fescue, Seabreeze Slender Creeping Red Fescue, Shademaster Ii Creeping Red Fescue, Shadow Ii Chewings Fescue, Sheeps Fescue, Tiffany Chewings Fescue, Treazure Chewings Fescue

    Arkansas Valley Seed, 303-320-7500
    Arcadia, Avalanche, Award, Blue Chip, Blue Star, Brilliant, Cannon, Goldrush, Kingfisher, Midnight, Moonlight, NuBlue, NuGlade, Odyssey, Princeton (P-105)
    Tall Fescue: Grande, Grande II
    Chewings: Shadow, Sandpiper
    Hard: Aurora Gold, Ospray, SR3100
    Creeping: Dawson

    Burch Seed Landmark/Scott Seed  Celina, OH
    800-622-8262 419-363-3713
    Thermal Blue, Midnight, Serene, Coventry, Washington, Abbey, Envicta, Goldrush,
    ScottÂs hybrids soon to be released  DuraBlue, Solar Green

    Charles C. Hart Seed Company
    860-529-2537 ask for Jim
    Alpine, America, Baron, Blue Velvet, Crest, Explorer, Langara, Mercury, Moon Shadow, Newport, Quantum Leap, Touchdown

    Diener Seed, Reynolds www.dienerseeds.com 800-545-8611
    Impact, Baron, Jewel, 98/85
    Millenium,
    Hard Fescue Stonehedge

    Eaton Farm Bureau
    517-543-1160
    Can get anything offered by Michigan State Seeds and Sysco (both are one this list)

    LD Oliver 802-893-1241
    Bluegrass: America, Apollo, Arcadia, Baronie, Blackstone, Bluestone,
    Blue Velvet, Brilliant, Cabernet, Champagne, Chicago II, Excursion, Glade, Moonlight, Moon Shadow, NuBlue, NuDestiny, Odyssey, P-105, Shamrock, Showcase, Touchdown,
    Tall Fescue: Cochise III, Crossfire II, Plantation, Rebel Exeda, Bariris, TurfSaver RTF w/ Labarinth

    Michigan State Seeds, 517-627-2164
    America, Arcadia, Award, Banff, Cannon , Cynthia, Explorer, Jeronimo, Gold Rush, Kingfisher, Langara, Odyssey, Orfeo (Seed Research), Park, Quantum Leap, Ronde, Rugby, Rugby II, Showcase, SR2100, SR2284, 98/85, Serene, Touchdown, Ulysses, Wild Horse.
    Hammond in Diamondale
    517-646-8698

    Pawnee Buttes Seed www.pawneebuttesseed.com
    800-782-5947 ask for Glenn
    America, Award, Bedazzled, Brilliant, Denim, Julius, Kingfisher, Marquis, Midnight, Midnight Star, Moonlight, North Star, P-105, Park, Prosperity, Quantum Leap, Rugby II, Serene, Touchdown,
    Matador, Pure Gold, Silverado II, Tarheel, Tomahawk RT, Wolfpack
    Big Horn (hard), Jasper II (creeping), Camilia (creeping), Silhouette (Chewings)

    Preferred Seed, Buffalo, New York http://www.preferredseed.com/
    716-895-7333 Ed Russell
    A-35 Benson, Arrow, Arrowhead, Award, Baron, Bedazzled, Bewitched (expected in mid-August), Brooklawn, Midnight, Midnight II (not until 2008) NuDestiny, Rugby II, Washington,

    Roselawn Agriseed at 503-651-2130 ask for John
    Bluegrass: Blacksburg, Blacksburg II, Blackstone, Blue Star, Brilliant, Challenger, Denim, Full Moon, Galaxy Blend, High Noon, Livingston, Longhorn TM, Midnight, Midnight II, Midnight Star, Moonbeam, Moonlight, Moonlight SLT, North Star, Prosperity, Serene, Unique

    Tall Fescue: Apache II, Confederate Brand, Coronado, Coronado Gold, Endeavor, Innovator, Matador GT, Mowless Brand, Olympic Gold, Pure Gold, Silver Star, Tarheel, Tarheel II, Tomahawk, Tomahawk GT, Wolfpack

    Selma Seeds www.selmaseed.com
    Plantation (Pennington 1901), Rebel Exeda, Rebel Supreme

    Sharp Brothers Seed www.sharpseed.com 970-356-4710
    Website shows various locations and seed list

    Steyer Farms, Ron Jacob 517-486-3520
    Bluegrass: America, Armadillo, Arrow, Baron, Bedazzled, Beyond, Blue Chip, Cache, Blue Sapphire, Blue Velvet, Boutique, Brooklawn, Diva, Impact, Freedom III, Impact, Jewel, Midnight, Midnight II, Moonlight, Moonshadow, NuBlue, NuDestiny, Park, Perfection, Total Eclipse

    Tall Fescue: Arid 3, Cheyenne, Chapel Hill, Cochise III, Constitution, Crossfire II, Dynasty, Finelawn Elite, Inferno, Kalahari, Millennium, Millennium II, Mustang III, Raptor, Red Coat, Titanium

    Sysco in Indianapolis 800-888-2986
    America, Armadillo, Baron, Arrow, Beyond, Blue Sapphire, Brooklawn, Cache, Impact, Jewel, Midnight, Mongoose, Moon Shadow, Nublue, New Destiny, Park, Perfection, Total Eclipse, Touchdown, 98/85 Common, 85/80 Common

    The Seed Center, Michigan 800-660-8789
    Liberator, NuGlade, Jacklin products but not Freedom III or Chicago II
    Quest, Inferno, Arid, Jaguar, Pixie, Tarheel, Olympic Gold, Endeavor, Cochise III, Titan LTD

    Tri-Turf 3751 800-636-7039 Blair Townhall Rd. Traverse City, MI
    Alene, Award, Blacksburg, Blue Chip, Blue Moon, Brilliant, Everest, Liberator, Limousine, Midnight, Midnight II, Nassau, NuBlue, NuDestiny, NuGlade, North Star, Rugby II, Serene, Total Eclipse

    Valley Green Holyoke, MA 413-533-0726 http://www.valleygreenusa.com/
    Alene Kentucky Bluegrass Amazon Kentucky Bluegrass, Award Sod Quality, Barclay Perennial Ryegrass, Bariris Kentucky Bluegrass
    Barrister Kentucky bluegrass, Blueberry Kentucky blue,
    Bluechip Bluegrass, Bonaire Kentucky Bluegrass,Bordeaux UNC. Blue, Brooklawn Kentucky Blue, Courtyard Kentucky Bluegrass,
    Everest Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass 85, Mallard Kentucky blue, Midnight Kentucky Bluegrass
    Midnight II Sod Quality, NuBlue Bluegrass, NuDestiny Bluegrass, NuGlade Bluegrass, Odyssey Bluegrass,
    P-105 Kentucky Bluegrass, Rugby II Bluegrass, Thermal Blue Kentucky Bluegrass, Unique Bluegrass, Washington Kentucky Bluegrass

    Tall Fescue  Coronado Gold, Olympic Gold, Masterpiece, Rembrandt, Alamo 3, Endeavor, Rebel Jr.
    Fine Fescue  Jamestown 4, Common Creeping Red, Bornito Hard Fescue, Cindy Lou Creeping Red, Rose Creeping Red

    Williams Lawn Seed www.wls.com 800-457-9571
    Bluegrass: America, Bedazzled (sod quality), Blacksburg, Blue Star, Blue Velvet (sod quality), Boutique (sod quality), Brilliant (sod quality), Brooklawn, Julius, Langara, Midnight (sod quality), Midnight II (sod quality), Midnight Star, Moonlight, Moon Shadow, North Star, Prosperity (sod quality), Quantum Leap, Rugby II, Unique

    Tall Fescue: Bonsai 2000, Crossfire II, Olympic Gold Dynasty, Houndog V, Wolfpack, Tar Heel, Millennium, Rembrandt, Finesse II

    www.crosmanseed.com
    www.seedland.com
    www.seedsuperstore.com
    www.summitseed.com