Franktank,
In regards to myself, I've never tried reliance, will note. My Buffalo exploded in its 2nd year and has huge bunches. They get these grey spots that eventually takeover the grape, causing them to fall off. What ever it is it bites it when green, primarily. There's soooo much though that everyone gets some. I shake the vine to get the bad ones to fall off. Any ideas what's 'bugging' it? It would sure be nice to get clean bunches.
Noogy

I've never had that, but U could check this page and see if you can identify it:

http://grapes.msu.edu/id.htm

What does Reliance taste like?

I'm not great at describing flavor, but not like a table grape you buy in the store. More of a wine grape (sweet/some tart/very juicy/no seed)? A lot I guess would depend on when you pick. I've picked them on the green side and have let them turned a nice shade of purple. Mine are not in an ideal spot, especially this year with a peach tree shading the vine some (the peach is getting chopped) and some afternoon shade from some large maples.

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Here are some. More or less the remaining scraps here since the kids have really wiped the vine clean

I would be tempted to try another variety hardy to this area.

I have one reliance seedless grape vine I hope to have some on it next year at least 20 pounds in the second year

Franktank,
Thanks for the link. My canadice produced some grapes as did my interlakens. I'm new to these varieties as well, but the ones I had were extremely sweet and complex, on the spicy? side cinammon/clove hint far off. I have to build more elaborate supports.
Noogy

My 5 year reliance gave me some great grapes last year. I let them hang and vine ripen. Flavor seemed to be a cross between concord and sweet flavored red table grapes to me. But this year the chipmunks have discovered them and so looks like I will get zero. Lots of bunches were hanging, but they take em before any color even begins to show. Sure is a bummer. This means war for next year! They make a squirrel look clumsy in comparison with their climbing abilities.

Sticky traps anyone? Just stick around to finish the job! A screeching chipmunk's bound to stir PETA!
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Mine were set heavy. Then they dried up in the heat/drought and what didn't dry up was snatched by birds or squirrels long before ripening.
I got absolutely nothing. But that's about par for the course this year.

Reliance are a favorite seedless table grape in my family - superior to store bought grapes combining a sweet/tart flavor that everyone loves. Makes awesome raisins! Lately I've got black spot (fungus) that has attacked this grape and greatly reduced my yields.

Franktank,
I've identified the insect responsible for invading my Buffalo grapes, and it's coming your way! Spotted wing drosophila fly. Think about pheromone traps next year for Blueberries/raspberries/blackberries, etc. They've attacked my Heritage raspberies badly.
Noogy

Noogy:

Where are you located in z5 that you are getting SWD and how are you sure that's what it is? Thanks!!

I'm in far sw Mi,Berrien County, zone 6. I'm absolutely positive as I've seen it on my raspberries, specifically. Bt wont help, apparently. The MSU horticultural extension has also confirmed it north of us in Allegan county. I saw some traps posted on this site that I may have to employ. The fresh ripe berries aren't affected, rather the super ripe ones. I guess the female cues in on smell/texture and deposits its eggs directly into the fruit, bypassing the topical Bt. The fruit then falls on the ground and the larvae pupates and emerges next year. I just eat the affected fruit. Gross, I know.
Noogy

has anyone in this zone tried tickled pink? And to all, Bag your bunches.
Spray with plant guardian, or molasses 1c per gallon or maybe even baking
soda for fungus. Bagging will hide from birds and stop disease from spreading
from bunch to bunch. Make them from the filmiest row cover or the "sewer cover" found at Home Depot. staple the sides to form bags large enough for
each bunch.

wonder if reliance will do well in zone 9?

Frank, you dont have your vines on a trellis?

would reliance work in zone 7B? partial or almost full sun?

Reliance would probably not work in zone 9 since I believe Pierce's disease is found there. Zone 7B should be fine, the more sun the better.

Scott

Reliance makes for GREAT raisons. They grow fine in our zone 5