Plan for backyard

17 years ago

I have a seeded bermuda backyard. After making the transition to Tifway in the front and sides this spring, let's just say I'm less than satisfied with the Mohawk, Cheyenne, and Transcontinental blend in the back! :-) Here's what I'm thinking about doing, backyard only (I'm leaving the 419 front and sides alone): Overseeding with Double Eagle Rye this fall. Then, next spring, say around late April, Rounduping the back and installing Tifway. Here's my concern. Can I still use Amaze or Dimension in early March for crabgrass control and not hurt the sod?

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dchall_san_antonio
17 years ago
Where do you live?

I'll save you a lot of work. Start this project NOW!! Apply Round Up TODAY and again in a week. It is only now getting into the deep bermuda seed germination season. NOW IS THE TIME whether you do it this year or next. I'm going to insist (!) that you wait until late June next year if you don't do it now!!! Bermuda seed needs hot soil and it is hot now. If you do it now you'll have the lawn you want by October.
jonmhenderson
Original Author
17 years ago
Well, I had my other Tifway installed in April, and it's doing great now. I'm in Spring Hill, Tn. I'm afraid it is too hot here right now for rye, and the bermuda back yard is ok, it just doesn't compare to the 419.
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dchall_san_antonio
17 years ago
I'm not suggesting planting rye now. I'm suggesting planting bermuda seed now. It is not too hot for that. If you do it now, do not ever overseed with ryegrass for the winter. That causes problems in the spring.
texas_weed
17 years ago
David Tifway is hybrid, not seeded common.
texas_weed
17 years ago
John you can lay sod any time of year as long as the ground is not snow covered, frozen, or mud so whatever time of year you want to start is fine. Mid to late spring is best after it has warme3d up but not too hot IMO because the grass is actively growing, and it it is not so hot that you have to waste water keeping the sod moist to root.

The only thing I do not understand is why bother with over seeding with Rye? There is nothing to be gained by doing so.

Whenever you decide to do this nuke the grass with two applications RU assuming it is green. Then scalp it as low as you possible can, remove and rake up all the debris. and add a Sugar Coat of top soil and lay sod.

Or if you really want to do it right, forget RU, and mowing. Just hire a contractor to regrade the area with a tractor and box blade and you are ready to go.
jonmhenderson
Original Author
17 years ago
I'm just wanting to have a green back yard for the kids this winter, then give them a Tifway yard like my front and sides next spring for them to have their crash landings in! :-) I guess my question really is: Can I put Amaze down BEFORE the install to control crabgass then kill off my rye overseed/common bermuda yard in late April/early May 2010? Will that work, or would the pre emergent have to be put on TOP of the sod? By that time, wouldn't it be too late to control the crabgrass? The timing seems a bit confusing to me, and any advice would be appreciated!