I have to admit, I bought from seedsuperstore.com myself. They mixed it, labeled it, shipped it (fairly cheaply) and delivered it to my door in less than a week.

I was thrilled.

Warranted, I put down 3 lbs/K ft (so, turf_junkie, I may be in the same boat you were!) and have about 2 lbs/K ft left over. The 'rents want some. The neighbors do, too, but I just forgot where I bought it and all that. :-)

Given the parched southern face, I'll still need some to fill in, I'm sure.

Roselawn Agriseed (turf-seed) sold me the galaxy KBG blend for about $4.65/lb plus $24 shipping for 30 lbs. Arrived quickly, no problems. So around $160 for 30 lbs.

Then maybe it's not so expensive. We're advised to purchase only 'sod quality' seed. Well, superstore makes a point of claiming to ONLY sell sod quality. I do expect to pay for for a Cadillac than for a Chevrolet, and apparently that's what I bought. I trust that the result will be worth it.

But, as in many other areas, a little time spent shopping can save a few bucks. We should all keep an eye on that situation, eh?

Yup. I just spoke to John at Rose agriseed and he says they're selling Midnight II at $4.50 a pound for a 50 pound bag.

Supturb89, would you please tell us what you paid at Seedsuperstore? Their pricelist looks the same to me as it was 2 and 3 years ago. During that time, and even one month ago, you could get bluegrass anywhere between $2.75 and $4.50 per pound, with Summitseed being the highest in that range. Most were more like $3.50 per pound. Prices have risen this year. We all knew this was going to happen. So now perhaps Seedsuperstore's prices are more comparable, with the exception of the 2 pound rate, which is still outrageous. But what works out to be $6.80 per pound is still more than most that I know about, and I am the only person on here mentioning places often. I would like to know where the mistake lies.

Bestlawn,
I paid $5.00/lb for my Midnight I purchased from seedsuperstore.com. The only other places I checked were Summitseed and Pawneebutteseed. Pawneebutte was a little cheaper per pound however they wanted more for shipping so that's why I went with who I did. By no means was I trying to imply that you or anyone else was giving bad advice and i'm sorry if I came across that way.

I bought KBG blend (sod quality - Bedazzled, Award, Moonlight) from Pawneebuttseed for $3.45/pound for 90 lb seeds. Initially they told me it would cost $4/pound but when I told them that I saw different prices on web, they gave me price mentioned on web. For shipping to CT they charged $55.

90lbs of seed? Wow, how much land are you seeding?

I am reseeding 20K sq feet lawn. My calculation - 4lb/1k & 10k to fill up any bare areas later on.

vkolte01, are you killing off 20k sq ft and starting over? Sorry I don't remember if you already stated. Unless you're starting from scratch, you don't want to sow seed at that rate. It's too much. 2-3 lb/1000 is enough for overseeding.

You want to go with the place that puts their seed in the nicest bags. Rose agriseed or whatever they're calling it nowadays.

Another plus to them is they don't gouge you on shipping like that place in Illinois then take forever to send it out.

I am getting my Midnight at the local Lesco for a bit over $3/lb.
I have always had success with that companies products, including their turf seed and fertilizers.
I try to avoid internet shopping with products like seed.

"I try to avoid internet shopping with products like seed."

Why?

I can get locally from reputable suppliers locally at the same price or less than it is offered on the internet. For example, I pay just over $3/lb. for certified high quality Midnight seed from Lesco, a very trusted name in the professional turf industry. Similarly, a local nursery has a solid bluegrass blend that they have at just over $3 a pound.
Some people here say they paid $5 a pound for bluegrass seed via internet seed stores. Why pay more for less?

Bestlawn,
Since I have Perennial rye lawn, I have decided to kill it off and redo with KBG blend.(based on yours and turf_toes posts about allopathic effects of Perennial rye). That's why I decided to overseed with 4 lb/1k rate

Why pay more?
You get your choice of a greater variety of neato sounding brand names.

I don't recall paying more than about $2.50/lb for KBG in the past. Did these prices recently go through the roof or something?

Similarly, a local nursery has a solid bluegrass blend that they have at just over $3 a pound.

Trust me, they don't. If you tell me the varieties in the bag, I'll tell you why. Everyone has a local nursery from whom to purchase bluegrass. If it were that simple, I would have found no reason for studying bluegrass and no reason to accumulate phone bills of long distance calls all over the country. Get me? But one reason I can say without knowing the varieties is that bluegrass went up this year for various reasons. That increase is across board for this year's crop. If you found someplace still selling for $3 a pound, there is no telling how old the bag is. It might be a year old and it may have been on their shelf for several years. Of course, you don't have to tell the varieties in the bag and go ahead and purchase the seed for less. Remember something for me, you have entered an arena that is not about pinching pennies. At what price are you going to save a few dollars? The advantage of knowledge is ours that we are more than willing to share with you if you are willing to listen, so please don't speak to us as if you have the big secret. Also, I can't be sure you know what a "solid bluegrass blend" is. Can you?

Vkolte01, I hear ya loud and clear.

bestlawn said, provocatively,"The advantage of knowledge is ours that we are more than willing to share with you if you are willing to listen, so please don't speak to us as if you have the big secret. Also, I can't be sure you know what a "solid bluegrass blend" is. Can you?"
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Spoiling for a fight, are you? I stated a simple fact (a current price from a local supplier) not an opinion. I wondered why people are willing to plunk down more money for KBG Midnight or KBG blends if they can get them locally at a supplier that was NOT on your list, despite all of the long distance phone calls you made. Is your problem with Lesco, because I cannot figure why you would lash out at me.

I have ordered Certified Midnight KBG from Lesco (not the first year I have done this) and I have the price that the manager of this Lesco quoted me in an email. He ordered it for me, and I certainly trust him (I have dealt with him personally at that branch, not just talking long distance) and Lesco, a trusted national supplier, more than unknown internet companies.

Who are you to act like you own this forum and accuse me of lying? Who are you to accuse me of not knowing what a "Bluegrass blend" is? Remember, I am not informing people which bluegrass type allegedly is better than the other here or there, you are. You say that you study bluegrass. OK, do you have empirical statistical proof to base your recommendations about the various bluegrass types, or is only what you read on the internet? Unless you reveal your educational background and your scientific testing methodology, why should your assertions about bluegrass be trusted more than scientists and experts across the country?
OK, forget answering, I don't need to engage someone who is a know-it-all and an accuser. Now I know why a few people have complained about you becoming a self-appointed grass dominatrix here. Sheesh.

Um, I think my grass could USE a dominatrix...

"SUBMIT!"

Paul
"just a little levity"

Similarly, a local nursery has a solid bluegrass blend that they have at just over $3 a pound.

I wasn't trying to pick a fight with you, and I don't see where I said anything about Lesco when I deliberately selected the parts of your quote that excluded Lesco. I did not accuse you of anything at all. More so, I defensively did not want you accusing people of being so stupid to pay too much for grass seed. I wouldn't care where anyone purchased Midnight or any other certified seed. The list is a helpful guide, not a demand for ransom. Far be it for you to share your secret source as I hoped and asked everyone to do. I also did not accuse you of not knowing what a blend is, but that's just more of my words that you twisted. Scientist and experts? You don't want to know anything about that. You're too busy answering your own questions and telling people you didn't ask for answers. But darn, I wish I were so clever as you to coin self-appointed grass dominatrix. I quite like it. Thanx!

Bestlawn: My source is Lesco, like I said.
A local nursery (and I know the owner who I deal with for other landscape material for years) sells a KBG blend, but his name will remain "secret". He is not an internet supplier and FYI, he scoffs at the idea of buying seed over the net. I don't agree with him completely, but if I can buy it for three bucks a pound locally, why pay five bucks a pound over the net? As far as KGB blends, Lesco also has a four way or five way KBG blend, but I do not know which varieties are in those.

I'm glad you feel comfortable as the grass dominatrix. This thought excites me like no other lawn activity I can think of. I am envisioning you coming here to aerate my lawn with your spike heels. ;-) Mercy.

OUCH!!! I hope discussing TTTF fescue varieties doesn't set off as big a debate. Kinda reminds me of the old mildly-posted chemical/organic threads we use to have around here. Well, maybe mild was a stretch. LOL!!!

I also agree with buying Lesco, if you can. Pretty good quality. I just bought 50# Lesco TTTF transition seed (Biltmore, Magellan, Shelby varieties) for $80 at HD. I could have gotten it at Lesco's but it's located across town.

He is not an internet supplier and FYI, he scoffs at the idea of buying seed over the net.

One can buy LESCO seed via the internet, so I found the above statement interesting.

Yeah pretty soon CBS or whoever owns this site now will have to create a new forum for those who buy their grass seed locally and one for people who buy it over the Internet.

He is not an internet supplier and FYI, he scoffs at the idea of buying seed over the net. I don't agree with him completely, but if I can buy it for three bucks a pound locally, why pay five bucks a pound over the net?

I payed that because I can't get it locally. Not everyone lives in an area where good quality grass seed is available. I am thankful that I am able to purchase online. Why anyone would scoff at this practice is beyond me.

I also agree with buying Lesco, if you can. Pretty good quality. I just bought 50# Lesco TTTF transition seed (Biltmore, Magellan, Shelby varieties) for $80 at HD. I could have gotten it at Lesco's but it's located across town.

I just bought the same seed from my "local" Lesco which is 80 miles away. It had Jubilee in place of the Shelby in your blend. You should have driven across town to your Lesco because I only gave $58 for my 50# bag.

A local nursery (and I know the owner who I deal with for other landscape material for years) sells a KBG blend, but his name will remain "secret". He is not an internet supplier and FYI, he scoffs at the idea of buying seed over the net.

kachinee,

Hey! I have an account at Lescos. But please point me to the link where I can buy straight Midnight II KBG from Lescos. No other cultivar, just Midnight II. Or how about a specific blend of Moonlight, Midnight II and Bedazzled?

I think you should see my point here. Yes. Lesco's will sell a blend of KBG with some of the elite cultivars. But trust me, they're created by some corporate monolith, not blended specifically for your own local needs.

The reason Lesco's seed sells a bit less is the economy of scale. They're buying bulk and creating these generic blends that are designed to fit as large a climatic target audience as possible.

Trust me, I've looked at the Lescos blends in my area and compared that with the NTEP results... It is not even close.

There's a reason you end up paying a bit more over the web. It is that you can create the blend that is best suited to your own needs.

Sure I could have purchased from Lescos for a bit less -- as I said, I have an account. But I'm reasonably sure if I had I wouldn't have the lawn quality that I have today.

As for Bestlawn, I think she is one of the most knowledeable posters on this forum.

Thanks supturb89...you've made my Monday. Now I am pissed for being lazy. :(

Start with a good NTEP analysis, and then see what seed you can buy locally. I found a good store here in KC that had what I wanted, but I had to ask for it by name, and it only came in 50# bags. Too much quantity for sure, but after getting a few neighbors and family to pitch in I ended buying 150 lb's anyway. We ended up getting exactly what we wanted (50%-25%-25%) Avenger, Picasso and Rembrandt, and the resulting lawns look good so far (at least the neighbors, since mine was a complete spring reseed I have to look though the weeds). I expect it will look quite nice next year though! =D

Dave

"One can buy LESCO seed via the internet, so I found the above statement interesting."
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I stated that I DISAGREED with the individual who said that they scoffed at the idea of buying grass seed over the internet. You have to understand that he owns a bricks and mortar family nursery and landscape business. He has partnered with a few other local nurseries to purchase grass seed from a supplier which include a few grass seed MIXES and KGB BLEND tailored to the climate and soil conditions of the general area.

Anyway, this had nothing to do with Lesco products, which are available at local Lesco warehouses, over the internet, or for some of their basic products, at Home Depot.

Somebody asked about Midnight II and some other bluegrass seeds. Lesco does not have those available to my knowledge.
If you want to create a custom blend, by all means, order over the net, and be prepared to pay a premium.

I have used (and have currently ordered) regular Midnight for just North of 3 bucks a pound. The lawn has been greatly improved by the first fall overseeding with this.

Dave, good tall fescue can almost always be found locally. The problem is premium bluegrass.

My neighbor and I are sharing 100 lbs. of bluegrass seed from Lesco for over-seeding. I don't know if it is considered premium by the expert here but we'll see how it works>

50% LESCO cert.Midnight
50% LESCO 5 way Kentucky Bluegrass blend

The magnificent six.

I'm no expert on grass but I'm not seeing where seed super store is selling for $5-$6 a lb for elite KBG? It looks like they sell KBG in two lb increments and most of the stuff is like $25 for two pounds or $12 a lb? The prices I'm getting from bestlawn's suppliers are around $6-$7 a lb. Just my observations.

http://www.seedsuperstore.com/ordering/products.asp?action=details&Ident=6&species=Kentucky%20Bluegrass

dlenart,

Call Rose Agri-seed (on her list). I purchased Midnight II (straight, no blend) for $4.50 a pound.

I should restate that the folks comparing Lescos with the internet sites are comparing apples to oranges.

When you buy a blend that is created by Lescos, you're getting a blend created by a national chain -- a blend that fits a broad climatic audience.

Buying from an internet vendor allows you to actually buy sod-quality cultivars that are rated tops for your area of the country based on NTEP testing.

I can't walk into Lescos and say, "I want a blend of Midnight II, Moonlight and Bedazzled. And I want it to be 40, 40 and 20 percent of each grass."

Seed isn't just seed. Some grasses perform better in certain areas than they do in others.

Based on my own experience (reading the cultivars in the Lescos seed in my own area), I've found that the blend they sell isn't the best performing grass for my own area (if the NTEP results are to be believed).

That may be ok with some folks who just want a nice looking lawn. But to be frank, I'm a bit more particular (a nice way of saying obsessed.) about the appearance of my lawn. I guess that would apply to anybody who would bother with rounding up their old lawn in order to make it look better.

Just to repost: This is what my lawn looked like in June with the custom-seed blend I purchased over the internet.

If you can get that look from Lescos, then great. But I don't think it would look that good if I hadn't purchased my seed online.

"If you can get that look from Lescos, then great. But I don't think it would look that good if I hadn't purchased my seed online."
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I feel like I have to defend Lesco when all I said was that I buy my seed there, the straight Midnight and the 5 way KBG blend. If you have expertise that leads to the conclusion that seed purchase from a list of internet vendors is superior, I defer to your opinion. I am just a homeowner with grass, not an expert by any means.

"Based on my own experience (reading the cultivars in the Lescos seed in my own area), I've found that the blend they sell isn't the best performing grass for my own area (if the NTEP results are to be believed)."

I have a few questions that come to mind from this.
What are the five Lesco cultivars and their characteristics that you have experience with? I am not questioning you or challenging you so don't be defensive, I am just wondering really , what they are and if I should be concerned about using them now.

Also in this same vein, why do you find them inferior in your area? Aren't most of the seed suppliers in Oregon, Kentucky, etc, and isn't bluegrass generally (all cultivars) pretty well suited or adaptable to most Northern climates?
I'm near the Illinois Wisconsin border, so which ones would not be adaptable or suitable to use here? I thought I could trust Lesco, am I wrong about that?

Kachinee,

I haven't looked at the labels this year. The blends change pretty much every year. But in 2005, I can tell you they weren't ranked anywhere near the top of the ntep lists.

You should see the list of cultivars on the bag when you go to Lescos. You should never be satisfied with a "mystery blend." You want the names of the actual cultivars.

As for why I found them inferior, I based my purchase on the National Turfgrass Evaluation Program results. Basically, a bunch of university AG/turfgrass programs test the various cultivars and how they do at each location.

One of the things you learn from that is that certain cultivars do better in certain areas. But the same cultivars may not do so well in another geographic area.

As for whether you can tust Lescos. I'm not saying you can't trust them. I'm sure Lescos sells decent seed. They certainly include more Midnight in their blend than you typically see at Home Depot.

Like I said, I have an account there. I don't dislike the company. But I just think you can, if you are willing to pay a bit more, have a better lawn if you buy direct from the seed farms themselves.

Most of the folks frequenting these forums tend to be lawn nuts. For those folks, I'd say paying the premium for seed from the web is worth the price.

One of the things you learn from that is that certain cultivars do better in certain areas. But the same cultivars may not do so well in another geographic area."
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I am near the Wisconsin/Illinois border so I will check to see which bluegrass varieties are not suitable for that location.
Do you have a link to the NTEP page?
Hopefully they are not selling grass seed that won't grow very well here.

NTEP

Thank you for that link. I looked at some of the bluegrass ratings for West Lafayette, Indiana (just as an example for a Midwest location) and to me, the differences between most of the bluegrass cultivars is like splitting hairs.
http://www.ntep.org/data/kb05/kb05_07-1/kb05in106t.txt
Also, it seems like some of the criteria (quality rating 1-9) are subjective, or could easily be impacted by other variables that might not be fully controlled.
I see Midnight is near the top and that will be 50% of my Magnificent Six blend I plan to get from Lesco. If you know what the cultivars are in their 5 way blend, let me know.

Kachinee,

Well, you're gonna have to do that yourself. I certainly would check to see what is actually going to make up the rest of that blend before I commit to buying it...

That blend isn't gonna be so "magnificient if the other five contain something like Kenblue.

turf toes said:
"Based on my own experience (reading the cultivars in the Lescos seed in my own area), I've found that the blend they sell isn't the best performing grass for my own area (if the NTEP results are to be believed). That blend isn't gonna be so "magnificient if the other five contain something like Kenblue."
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I thought you knew what the cultivars were when you said that, which is why I asked. I think the blend with 50% solid Lesco Midnight plus 50% consisting of five others might be decent....maybe not magnificent....but I think the whole "magnificent" blend started here has been over-hyped.
I thought Kenblue was Scott's and I did not think Lesco used that one, but I will find out.
I don't have a problem with Lesco but others who are the experts here feel differently. From what I see, they look like a legitimate company that provides the best products they can. I figure if they provide products to professionals who tend to gold courses, baseball diamonds, soccer fields, etc., they must be pretty good.

Here is a link that might be useful: Lesco helps maintain Soccerplex

Kachinee,

Is this a troll?

You need to go back and read what you posted:

I wrote:

I haven't looked at the labels this year. The blends change pretty much every year. But in 2005, I can tell you they weren't ranked anywhere near the top of the ntep lists.

Kachinee wrote:

If you know what the cultivars are in their 5 way blend, let me know.

If you need validation about your decision to buy seed from Lescos. Then ok. I think you'll have a dandy yard. I hope that makes you feel better.

No one here was even discussing Lescos until you jumped in to basically call folks who buy online idiots who are throwing their money away.

Katchinee wrote:

I can get locally from reputable suppliers locally at the same price or less than it is offered on the internet. For example, I pay just over $3/lb. for certified high quality Midnight seed from Lesco, a very trusted name in the professional turf industry. Similarly, a local nursery has a solid bluegrass blend that they have at just over $3 a pound.
Some people here say they paid $5 a pound for bluegrass seed via internet seed stores. Why pay more for less?

My responses have generally been that you don't get less, you get more. You can actually pick the cultivars best suited to your region. You on the other hand seem to think that all KBG seed are essentially the same regardless of where grown.

You've decided that the NTEP folks are not to be trusted:

Also, it seems like some of the criteria (quality rating 1-9) are subjective, or could easily be impacted by other variables that might not be fully controlled.

But you have decided that you can trust Lescos, even though you admittedly don't know what half of the cultivars in their blend.

Well, to each their own. I think results speak louder than words.

I hope your lawn turns out great. But I'm done here.

all KBG seed are essentially the same regardless of where grown.

Which both Turf_toes and I can easily prove isn't the case. ;-) All three we chose were in the top-ranking ones from NTEP. His lawn looks fantastic. Mine's just restarting now.

Turftoes, you wrote:
"Based on my own experience (reading the cultivars in the Lescos seed in my own area), I've found that the blend they sell isn't the best performing grass for my own area (if the NTEP results are to be believed)."
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That is your quotation which clearly indicated that you had knowledge of the specific blend, experience with it, and an opinion about it. I simply wanted to know what specific cultivars you were referring to, that is all.

morpeuspa:
I never said what you placed in italics, period. I am not an expert on grass seed, but I rely on experts at Lesco and other professionals for the products I buy. I know that they have been chosen carefully, shipped and stored properly, and where to return them if something is wrong.

The over-defensive posts on this are beginning to make me think that all the hype here about custom blending KBG seed has gone to your heads. Foe example, this is a quote of yours:

"I don't think it (the grass) would look that good if I hadn't purchased my seed online."

If you believe that, OK, fine.
I do not want to challenge you but I have to say that I think that is a bit over the top.

Kachinee--I'm still trying to decide if you're a troll or if you're really looking for help.

I know several posters have already concluded the former, but I still hold out hope for the latter.

I don't have a dog in this fight. If anything, I'm working to get a lawn that the "lawn bigots" here would despise. I'm trying to get the KBG to just die out so the lighter, yellower, and bluer green native grasses will dominate. However, I've been coming here long enough to understand the culture.

Turftoes was writing about the Lescoes blend he saw several year ago. He did have knowledge of that blend. But that was the blend he saw. That may or may not have been the blend you saw. Lescoes changes their blend from year to year, and possible from location to location. It would be best if they had location specific blends, but they probably have a blend that is good for general purpose nationally.

If you browse the NTEP site, you'll find the criteria they use to evaluate turf, and you'll see that they wor hard to ensure it isn't arbitrary and subjective.

If you plant the blend from Lescoes, you will have a perfectly acceptable lawn. You may well have the best lawn on your block. What you need to consider is that you're overseeding an existing lawn to make it look better, but you're participating in a forum where there are people who are killing their entire lawn, then planning their vacation to reseed and properly water their lawn so that they have the best lawn they possibly can have, not just the best lawn on the block (guys--if I'm misrepresenting you, let me know).

I wish I had the guts to kill my lawn. On one level, I think I have to, but I keep hoping overseeding will work for me. NTEP doesn't even rate the grasses I plant, because they're not considered turf grasses. My goal isn't to have the greenest lawn on the block. My goal is to have the lawn that stays green with the least amount of water.

supturb89 - just talked the the local Lesco guy and the transition seed there is $85 for 50#, and their blend wasn't quite as good as the HD blend according to NTEP. You must have a contractor account you failed to mention. Not so pissed now. :)

bpgreen wrote:
"I'm still trying to decide if you're a troll or if you're really looking for help."
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NEITHER!

bpgreen said:
"you're participating in a forum where there are people who are killing their entire lawn, then planning their vacation to reseed and properly water their lawn so that they have the best lawn they possibly can have, not just the best lawn on the block."
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If you actually believe that buying individual bluegrass cultivars from the internet will yield a superior lawn to what one might attain by purchasing bluegrass cultivars locally, your opinion is fine with me. I do not agree with that proposition nor do I follow the advice given by someone here to purchase seed over the internet from certain named people.

The poster that issued a negative opinion about a specific 5 way Lesco bluegrass blend was asked what the specific blend was that he was evaluating. He guessed and said that one was "Kenblue" but he apparently does not know. However, I am not going to take him to task by asking again. That is all I was looking for, not a backlash from internet seed purchasers or fans of the individual who recommends them here.

My only remaining point is this, if one states that a specific brand or product is inferior to something they purchased on the internet, I think the burden is upon them to justify their opinion. You cannot flip that burden by calling me a troll for asking.

Good luck with your lawn and I hope there is still time to take a vacation. Don't stress so much about getting the perfect lawn... a vacation probably would be better for you and the family than the great internet seed chase anyway.

Hi Bestlawn,

Wondering where you came up w/ 12-15/pound for "Elite" blends of KBG from the superstore. When I used the seed customizer for Midnight II, Moonlight and Bedazzled, I came in just under $8 per pound. Still high, but significantly lower than $12. Am I looking at the wrong thing? Also, I thought (based on their website) that their seed for these three KBG types was "sod quality". They display the gold label next to them. Should I be looking for something else?

Thanks!!!

Boatboy, I only see their price page. I'm sorry but I don't know of any other pricing page on their site. What I said before is these (below) are the same prices they had two years ago, which was outrageous because seeds were an average of $3.50 per pound then. Many places were still that price when responded on July 23rd htough we all knew prices were going up this year. Turf Toes brought that to our attention a few months ago. Because of this year's increase, Seedsuperstore may be more competetive now, but I still suggested everyone do the comparisons. Concerning the second part of your question, I think you misunderstood. I said "I never bothered to ask Seedsuperstore about that at all." Until MyNextLawn asked about Seedsuperstore, I had not been to their website this year, so I didn't see the "sod quality" tag next to the listed varieties. Yes, sod quality is what you want.

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Bestlawn,

Thanks for responding.

So, the gold tag that is next to the Arcadia (and others, but Arcadia was the first one) in the link you provided is what I should be looking for?

The pricing I'm referring to is on their homepage, if you choose option 3 - "Seed Customizer". That's where you can pick your specific blends (or mixes) and they will give you a price.

I see that you were looking at the two pound pricing when coming up w/ the 12-15 range. I was looking at 20lbs of "The Magnificent 3". As you posted, the price per pound is much, much lower in those quantities.

:-)