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Need Help w/ TORO Mower

12 years ago

I have an older 22" Toro push mower with a 6.5 HP Tecumseh engine, Model LEV 120, about 14 years old. A couple weeks ago I had trouble with it running, hard to start. I replaced the spark plug, air filter, rebuilt the carb, cleaned jets and bolts, adjusted float with an 11/64 drill bit between float and body of carb, some o-rings were rotted away. replaced the fuel line, replaced primer bulb, cleaned tank. Put everything back together, pulled the rope one time, purred like a new born kitten, happy me.

Only problem, could not get high idle enough to mow the grass. Readjusted the linkage to factory settings and a new spring on the linkage, double checked for accuracy. Now I cannot get it to start, multiple primes, multiple rope pulls.

Any ideas what might be giving me a headache here ???

Comments (5)

  • 12 years ago

    The throttle plate position should want to be wide open when starting. So, if perchance you have the links incorrectly placed- that would be the most likely scenario. The final RPM adjustment is made by bending the tab on the mount bolt. Post a pic maybe? Do you have an active primer currently? If the edge of the bowl is corroded it needs to be replaced w/ the new seal. Maybe the first time the float valve wasn't quite set and some fuel bled past and auto primed it for you. So you replaced both emulsion tube seals? Did you get 2 old seals out?

  • 12 years ago

    Throttle plate position is open the whole way. Edge of the bowl was in nice condition as the edge of the carb body, cleaned both with a wire wheel and added a new gasket. Both emulsion o-rings were replaced, in fact one was missing completely, the other in bad shape, I blame that on ethanol and they want to raise it to 15%.

    Attached a picture of my linkage, the day it puured the throttle plate was front against the stop screw, not back like it should have been, that was before I replaced the spring.

    Also, I noticed another problem as I went out to take a picture, I just put it away yesterday after working on it and the carb is filled with gas, air filter is soaked and cyclinder is filled with gas, if I pull the rope, gas blows out the exhaust, bad head gasket, cracked head, time for a new mower ?

  • 12 years ago

    The links are good. Though there are some carbs that have only 1 emulsion tube seal, yours should have 2. There should have been remnants of the top seal though- unless you soaked the carb. I have a small brush set which is used for cleaning paint guns I think. HF special. The large one is grippy enough to grab them out. So if it comes apart, I would look for that upper ring again. Plus replace the bowl.
    In the end , it would seem as though that the float valve seat may not be pressed in all the way. Or possibly installed inverted. If it doesn't press in further, pick up a new kit and try again w/ a dab of lube. The wire on the valve points towards the air filter. Reset the float again, replace the filter and hopefully you will be home free. On a rare occasion, you may just have a leaker on your hands and may need to replace the carb.

  • 12 years ago

    Don't throw it away yet - carb is leaking down into the engine. You'll need to change the oil after you fix it - don't run it with the gas-diluted oil.

  • 12 years ago

    Took the carb apart again and I had a torn O-ring on top of the emulsion tube, that was put in new last time, not sure how that happened, the valve seat was also inverted so I put a new one in the right way, bought the tool this time too, that way I have it, I'll probably never need it again.

    A person would think the valve seat being inverted would not make that much of a difference as small as it is but it does.

    Thanks for your help, greatly appreciated

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