Wildlifeman, I'd love to have your trees..
can you please fill in you member page your zone?
How cold was your coldest night so far?
I'm interested in varieties for my zone what stay on the tree for good.
I want to make apple ice wine.

Konrad

"summer" apples are the ones that drop as soon as ripe, "fall" apples drop over-ripe or when hit with gusty wind, the very latest "winter" heritage varities do hang until they rot .... around here wagener, vanderpol red, winston and yellow bellflower [among others] are still on the trees long after the leaves are gone and freezing weather has hit

Bill

konrad,

i went and updated my zone to 5b. i'm a conservative and i believe it may actually be 6a and that is what i am told by a nearby local.

coldest night so far may be 20 give or take a few. since i can't influence this statistic i don't pay much attention to it. exception being when i was trying to figure out when to bring my peppers in.

no clue as to varieties, but can state color as yellow/green or red. doesn't narrow that demographic much.

never heard of apple ice wine but that sure sounds inviting.

maybe the best i can do for u konrad is maybe provide scions. for that all i ask is postage and an update on your progress in your endeavor. (learning experience)

as for apples that will stay on your tree for good, these may be the answer. i have rifles that have literally knocked cape buffalo off their feet but may lack the power to shoot these apples out of their trees.

as a side note a few of these trees have produced apples with an ice core and were delightfully enjoyable. some on gw i have noticed had a disdain for these apples, i'm not japanese but i've enjoyed this abnormality.

squeeze,

only had 1 bad wind in sept this year that knocked my plums and prunes out, otherwise a mild wind year.

have saw the "mac" drop, diseased , pest infested and windblown drops, just never saw apples that want to hang over winter till i bought this place.

the only benefit is i always have 8 - 10 forest grouse at a time in mid winter pecking at these fruit at the tops of the trees. too bad they are rotten and they leave quickly.

i sure wish i could id these cultivars.

thanks for responding gents,
wildlifeman

In our mountains Rome Beauty hangs on the tree like Christmas decorations with a mantle of snow on each one. This might fit your description. Once they thaw out they are mush.

White Winter Pearmain also hangs on, but the ones on the ground under the snow are often still good in the spring.

One of the prettiest things I ever saw was a leafless persimmon tree all hung with its bright orange fruit, not that this has anything to do with the topic at hand, mind you.

But thanks for reminding me of that sight.

Thanks wildlifeman for your update!

>>never heard of apple ice wine but that sure sounds inviting.I'm sure you never did,....I'm the inventor, so anybody taking this idea to use and profiting, please hand me
over 1% from sales. LOL

>>maybe the best i can do for u konrad is maybe provide scions. for that all i ask is postage and an update on your progress in your endeavor. (learning experience)

Thank you kindly wildlifeman,
Too bad, it's not legal to send life material, not sure if I want to take this risk, it might not be coldhardy for zone 3.

>>as for apples that will stay on your tree for good, these may be the answer. i have rifles that have literally knocked cape buffalo off their feet but may lack the power to shoot these apples out of their trees.LOL

applenut...thanks!
Rome Beauty is rated for zone 5 and up, my zone is 3
White Winter Pearmain might work, rated as zone 3 and up.
I'll see for scion on my side of the border first.

Konrad

Bill
Thanks for your input!
I will look it up, would love some nice size apples on a tree for winter, first it looks cool, second, it
would be a interesting change from our crab apples [small], what stay on most of the winter before birds find them.
The rest is for me!
Actually, I love to see flocks of Bohemian Waxwings eating on these trees, have seen grouse too.
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Konrad