Same here, my biggest problem is rust. But rust seems to only attack KBG because the PRG growing next it is completely unharmed...?

I guess I'll be using straight Midnight.

What about dark green color? I've read that MII is darker...?

Sooooo, who said to plant Midnight II?

The numbers are deceiving. You have to take the LSD values into consideration also. Both your source and NTEP ratings prove that.........

*You get no better shade tolerance from one than the other. The Midnights are not shade tolerant.

*For rust, the difference is less that 1 point, meaning barely significant

*There is no difference in red thread significance

*Spring density are the same

*Genetic color are the same

* Spring greenup are the same
Where the Midnight Types are concerned, the term "spring greenup" can be confusing. It does not mean they will be brown until they begin to green up in spring, nor that they will be brown until late spring. They never turn brown during winter dormancy, having good winter color for the most part although that doesn't mean they stay the same color as in fall. The term means it will take time for them to express their true genetic color in spring which, as we know, is very dark. But they will green up along with other lawns, just take longer to darken.

I overseeded with Award (Midnight Type) and Boutique. My lawn was great in spring like everyone else's, then I could visibly see it darkening each day. It was exciting to watch. When I woke each morning, the first thing I did was run to my window to look at the grass. I could tell it was darker than the day before. This went on for two weeks or so.

My lawn is mostly Midnight and I've noticed that each spring, coming out of winter dormancy takes at least 2 weeks longer than most. My neighbors were cutting their lawns well before I was.

So sorry, Subywu. I don't know who's comments you're confirming, but it wasn't about coming out of dormancy or mowing/growing. It was about greenup.

I think I should stipulate that being what Parafly meant and not the technical definition of the term.

I was just making a comment that it seems the Midnight types "wake up" from winter dormancy a little later since we were talking about their properties. I think I have even seen it in print somewhere.