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Difference between Paul's Scarlet & Blaze

17 years ago

I have a rose that came from the ashes so to speak, that I figure is either a blaze or Paul's scarlet, and I have researched both and can't for the life of me tell them apart from the pics. It appears mine is a once bloomer, few blooms. I saw rose leaves on the ground in the grass and nurtured it, I thought it was a mini, but even after accidently mowing it once has come back to about 4' high in a couple years. The people that lived here before me for 3 yrs. Must not have known it to be there as it was in a mowed area. I don't know if the people b4 him knew or planted it, they built the house in 1962. There was an old house here before that that they moved a couple miles north of here. One other option is about 7 miles north of me in a pasture there is some similiar looking roses in an empty pasture, apparently an old homestead, and perhaps the birds ate some hips and dropped a seed here, little far fetched perhaps, but anyway I'm rambling, and was curious if there was any way to determine if it is blaze or Paul's scarlet climber.thx.

Comments (5)

  • 17 years ago

    Len, pix would be helpful.

    I've seen a lot of Blaze, a couple of Paul's Scarlet, and at least one probable Bloomfield Courage (another possibility).

    Just on the basis of numbers, I'd think Blaze is more likely.
    But -- that don't mean it can't be something else.

    Jeri

  • 17 years ago

    Linked below is what (with Scaniello's help) I think is Paul's Scarlet. His book Climbing Roses has more info on Paul's.
    My rose had slight rebloom in fall once it got some years on it (and summer rainfall.) Blooms in shade are a shade of red purple than the blooms that open in full sun.

    Here is a link that might be useful: My 'not Dr. Huey'

  • 17 years ago

    I got a cutting of a rose from my Grandmother's house on her 100th birthday in 1995. It had been planted in 1939. I asked her if it was Blaze, which seemed the most likely possibility for a red climber of that date. She said "No, it's 'Red..something'." Well, it isn't any Red something I've been able to find, and looks like either Blaze or Paul's Scarlet, but I really haven't found any way to distinguish the two except that Blaze reblooms and PS doesn't. Since my Grandmother was certain it wasn't Blaze, I figure it is probably PS. Mine starts blooming in May, and has blooms continuously for a couple months and stops. I don't know if I can call that rebloom or not. It doesn't get much in the way of fertilizer or summer water here, so that may be why I don't get any late summer or fall bloom. But the point is that it's really hard to tell the difference.
    Jill

  • 17 years ago

    I thank everyone. I'm on the road right now, the only pics I could find I posted on daves garden last year. They are double, yellow stamens, outer petals have a little faint china streaks, and heart shaped petals. The leaves are a medium olive-green with purple coloring in stems. The color is a soft red, what I call a pernetian red. I thought maybe there might be a subtle clue or something. I think there are a couple or three different blazes, and I know the blazes came from Paul's scarlet climber, so I am leaning towards blaze, I think ps came out not that many years before the first blaze. And of course I had been tempted to get a ps, but if I already had one, I could just get something else off my list,LOL!

  • 3 months ago

    Paul's Scarlet is a June bloomer Blaze supposedly is a Paul's Scarlet sport that was seen blooming all season and then was propagated into a replacement for PS. I have a PS in my yard which is probably close to 100 years old.

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