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Pond inside greenhouse

18 years ago

I finally have this greenhouse project started (since HF put the kit on sale!) and am planning some additions. With reading alot about thermal mass and the such, I was thinking about adding maybe a small pond to the far side of the greenhouse. My thinking is, that I will dig it to be about 4 or 5 ft deep and then raise the sides to make it roughly 5-6 ft. deep and 1-2 ft. wide with maybe an outside arch in the middle to 3 or 4 ft. That way, I can add a small fountin in the center to help expel the thermal properties of the water... cools in the summer and warms the air the winter. I also want to add on one end a pump that goes through pvc pipe down the length (painted black of course) and then empties back into the pond. This would turn off at night in the winter and run at night in the summer. Anyone have an idea if this would be worth the hassle? I have always wanted a water feature as well, so I though this would look nice and help heat and cool. Anyone see any challenges of feedback?

Comments (7)

  • 18 years ago

    Water doesn't hold a great deal of heat. (not talking about phase change)
    One cubic feet = 62 lbs.
    1 BTU = one lb of water rising one degree F.
    a 1,500 watt heater will give you over 5,000 BTUs per hour.

    Water feature in a greenhouse? great idea!

    dcarch

  • 18 years ago

    Hi
    Have a 3x6 x3 foot deep pool in the shadehouse as well as a 150 gallon aquarium and a marsh garden,. These are all attached to the outside 5x10 water lily pool. Heated with aquarium heates mainly for the fish but added a waterfall
    last March hopefully to provide some heat .
    I think I'm going to remove the 3x6 for several reason.. It takes up way too much floor space,is too shaded to grow water plants well and of course it's almost impossible to view into it. The aquarium has worked very well, not only provides warm water but allows growing submerged plants and very easy to view the interior.
    I use it for the resevoir for the waterfall which is7x10 feet. It drains into the marsh area which acts as a channel to return to the lily pool. The main problem there has been unbelieveable growth !! lol Way too much shade for the submerged plants. Another is gardening with a ladder lol.
    very inconvenient, I made the waterfall from expanding foam painted with acrylic paint. Got a huge "rock" wall with very little weight and low price.
    This also functions as a semi-hydroponic "seep" wall for epiphytes mostly orchids.
    All things considered , I'm rather pleased with it but there have been some problems. Have no idea how it works as a climate moderator as it's been too warm for a test.
    I wouldn't make a pool that deep ,way too hard to clean,somehow everything that falls goes in the drink lol.
    Above ground is far more useful. gary

  • 18 years ago

    Water is great as a thermal mass compared to air.
    A deep pond will stay at around ground temperature, where a shallow pond will be much cooler.

  • 18 years ago

    Gary, would love to see your wall if you have pics?!

  • 18 years ago

    Hi
    Looks like i might get a test of the water heating system lol. May get a frost tomorrow night. In any event
    it'll be the coldest since installing the system.. I feel certain that it will be frost proof and keeping the water temps up will be no problem. but there will be cold pockets and I have plants rated at 60's lol. Will give me some idea of what really happens.
    root I took pix while making the wall but none came out. It is still not completely planted and there are still large areas of styrofoam showing. I planted whatever i had leftover on the wall to see what works. Not too exciting to look at yet but it's getting there lol Hope my heating system works!!!! gary

  • 18 years ago

    I have a pond across the end of my 6 x 8 HFGH but built it to grow tropical plants, not to heat greenhouse. It does not heat the greenhouse.

    I have multiple other ponds, would not be without water features. Love them.

  • 18 years ago

    buyorsell888, do you have any pictures of that? What else do you use to heat the greenhouse there?

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