Which roses where?

19 years ago

You know the situation. You order roses because they are on sale and everyone raves about them. Then they arrive and you actually have to decide where to put them (not to mention planting them). I have plenty of room, but I'm asking for advice.

I have a large oval shaped bed in the center of my front lawn. It has a Kwanza cherry and a bradford pear tree at each end. have junipers and some clarissa hollies in there. All this came with the house. I haven't really done much because the soil here is not great.

I want to plant 2 or 3 roses in the middle island to spice it up. I was thinking of putting one in the middle of the 3 clarisssa hollies on one end. One in the middle of the junpers in the middle and one at the end of the junipers.

I have in pots or bare roots soaking:

Graham Thomas

Golden Celebration

Crown Princess Margarete

Crepsecule

Jubilee Celebration

Bishops Castle

Falstaff

DH likes yellow/orange roses and would like this combo in the front. I'm more of a pink person and would like the last 3. I'm also concerned about size. I'd like them to be big, but not be climbers. If I do the GT/CPM/GC combo, do I have to have support for them? I think they'd look more impressive than the pinks I have, because they will get big enough to compete with the hollys and junipers. But I don't want them to get TOO big.

I'm in zone 7/8 and these will get full sun all day. Maybe some late afternoon shade.

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Comments (3)

seattlesuze
19 years ago
Buford, if it were me, I'd dig out the junipers because they're stinky and their soil needs are so different from roses. Then I'd amend the soil. Of the roses you mention, I have Crepuscule and Graham Thomas. Crepuscule will grow to be a very large plant in your zone, perhaps as large as 15x15. GT can be grown as a climber or shrub. Mine is three years old and is just beginning to leave behind its scraggliness. It stands about 4.5 ft tall. Golden Celebration is a good-sized climber. For smaller roses, you might want to consider Molyneux for a yellow. It's a beauty, just smaller.

Good luck!

Sue
patricianat
19 years ago
I wish we could see a picture. I am such an imagination-challenged person unless I have pictures, but I love Kwanzan and Yoshino cherries. I am not opposed to Junipers. I like them, but not too many of them. I love hollies also. I just like plants, but Yoshino and Kwanzan cherry trees are among my top three, second only to a dogwood.
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buford
Original Author
19 years ago
I wish I had put in another cherry tree instead of the pear. I guess if this one splits I can do that :)

I decided to go with the yellow/apricot. I can't get rid of the junipers. Well, I could, but I'd need a back hoe. The soil in this bed is so bad, I'm just happy that something does well in there. I've been keeping them pruned, and they are the kind that gets wide and sprawling, not high. And they get nice berries. The will make a nice background and hide the base of the roses.

So it's GT at one end CPM in the middle and GC at the end. I dug into the clay (it was that yucky white/grey kind) only enough to allow for drainage. I mounded up the roses with good planting soil. They are own root, so they should do OK. My only concern is drainage, but there is a good slope to my front yard.

GT will get afternoon shade from 2 onward. It was shady when I planted it. I hope it's not too much, but he should get the sun all morning. The bed already looks better without the scraggly butterfly bushes in it. We replanted them to our expanded butterfly garden in the back. They are a reddish purple and the other bbs there are bluish purple so it should look ok.

Hopefully I get some blooms later this year and I'll post pictures.