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Gravely PM310 Electrical Issue

15 years ago

Hello,

I have a Gravely PM310 commercial mower with some sort of electrical problem. I am hoping someone can help. This is an out front zero turn mower with a Kohler 25 HP CVS engine and 60 inch deck.

I am unable to get the mower to start because of an apparent electrical issue. The 30 amp fuse will blow whenever the key switch is placed into the run or start position. This came about suddenly. After searching for a short and having no luck, I searched the web and tried some of the trouble shooting reccomended by Mownie on this thread:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/tractor/msg080226478924.html

Here is what I have found so far

1) I disconnected the wiring harness from the key switch and tested for continuity between the B (battery) wire and ground. I got no continuity during this test. I think this indicated there is not a wire short to ground.

2) I tested the key switch and found no continuity between the G (ground) terminal and the "B" terminal. I think this indicated the key switch is not the issue.

I am not sure what the logical next step is. I have attached a wire diagram below. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The grass is growing FAST.

Thanks

Wiring Diagram

Switches

Comments (3)

  • 15 years ago

    OK, I see you have done your home work. Good!
    You will need to begin by checking the Purple wire circuit leading out of the key switch from Terminal "A".
    You can't simply check for "continuity to ground" using an Ohmmeter for this because there are a number of devices fed by the Purple wire and they are all directly connected to the Purple wire circuit. This means that even a perfectly good wiring harness and all devices will show "continuity to ground" when an Ohmmeter is connected between the Purple wire and the chassis ground.
    You will need to physically examine the wiring harnesses/pigtail leads that serve each of the devices to see if some part of the machine has chafed, pinched, or burnt through a wire.
    Here is a list of the devices that feed directly from the Purple wire circuit:
    Hour meter
    Auxiliary power outlet (12VDC accessory power socket)
    Seat relay
    Seat switch
    PTO switch
    Voltage regulator
    Oil pressure light (only the circuit LEADING TO the light bulb, if the wire to the OP switch shorts it simply turns the OP light on......not blow a fuse).
    If you DO NOT discover a damaged wire serving a device, you will need to move to the next level of testing.
    The next level will require that you unplug or disconnect all of the devices in the above list.
    Next, get you a supply of 20 amp fuses (yes...20 amp) to replace the OEM 30 amp fuse.
    With the key switch connector in its proper place on the switch and the battery connected..........turn the key switch to the RUN position. If the 20 amp fuse pops, you might as well begin removing body panels so you can inspect the main wiring harness loom for damage that is concealed from easy view.
    If, however, the 20 amp fuse does not pop.....begin re-connecting the devices "one at a time" (turn off the key before you re-connect a device). Check the fuse each time you re-connect a device and turn on the key. Be sure you are sitting in the seat as though you were doing a normal operation.
    When you re-connect a device that pops the 20 amp fuse, you have identified the circuit that is shorted. If it turns out to be a relay that pops the fuse, you can swap relays to see if it is the relay itself, or if there is a problem in the wiring leading OUT of the relay.
    If swapping a relay DOES NOT cure the fuse popping, there is trouble beyond that relay.
    If this does not steer you to a resolution, post back and we will try to go deeper.

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for the help.

    I disconnected the devices on the purple wire circuit. I found that I could re-connect all the devices except the connector leading into the engine (regulator). When this was disconnected, I could place the key in the run position without blowing the fuse and The starter would turn when the key was in start position.

    Unfortuneatly I did not have time to trace the wires any further. They all go under the engine shroud which appears to be held on by a zillion bolts and screws, most of which are nearly impossible to reach. LOL Any guess what I may find in there?

    thanks again

  • 15 years ago

    Being as it is a Kohler, one or more of the magnets INSIDE the flywheel may have come "unglued" and piled up on the alternator stator coils, resulting in some serious damage.
    The picture below is from an old thread posted by a member who had a similar issue with his Kohler.
    The red Xs indicate loose flywheel magnets that have stuck to the steel laminates of the stator coils.
    Bent (and shorted) coils are indicated by green lines.

    {{gwi:327887}}

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