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Does anyone grow Rose a Parfum de L'Hay

19 years ago

I have a last hybrid tea (Beloved) which is headed for a shovel pruning (blackspot, and it's just one big bare leg). Among the options I am considering is the rugosa rose Parfum de l'Hay. Does anyone have experience with it? Does it repeat well, and are the blossoms attractive (they looked attractive in some of the pictures)?

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  • 19 years ago

    Yes. :-)

    But mine is only in it's second year so I can't tell you all that much about it. It's a Rugosa hybrid and, unlike the standard Rugosas, it is prone to getting Black Spot in these parts -- it did so last year.

    I'll let mine mature and see how it behaves, but that doesn't give you the info you need now.

    *IF* it behaves more like some of the other purple Rugosas, such as Roseraie de l'Hay and Hansa, then it will repeat well if it gets a good haircut after it blooms. I use hedge trimmers on my other Rugosas and they love it.

    The blooms are a pretty reddish purple -- so far more purple than red -- and are very fragrant. Still, there's that BS thing, so it doesn't look too promising.

    If you go with one of the other Rugosas mentioned above, then I can highly recommed them, as they don't get diseased in these parts. But they do get large, which is ok in my too-open yard. Roseraie de l'Hay is particularly big and makes a bold statement when in bloom -- it's more like a tree in its growth, vigor, and behavior -- not very much like what we normally picture when we think of a rose.

    I hope you get some better answers, but thought I should point out the experience with BS. If you are in a less humid zone 7 it may work out well for you.

    All the best,

    Deb

  • 19 years ago

    Thanks Deb, I appreciate your candor!

    It is pretty humid in these parts, lots of blackspot. But some roses definately resist better than others. My 1st austin rose, Jude the Obscure, never gets blackspot.

    I may look at some other options: another red HT (I know, heresy!), a red tea or a red China (any ideas anyone). I am also starting Rose du Roi in a pot, it is just a band now, but maybe it will grow into a decent sized bush that can replace my lame HT.

    Basically, I want something that is fragrant, has decent foliage, lots of rebloom, and has good roses to cut and take inside. Maybe I am looking for too much??

  • 19 years ago

    nova,
    Rugosas generally aren't cutting roses. Maybe WS 2000 would meet your requirements. Do you spray at all?

  • 19 years ago

    Hi Michael

    Thanks for the suggestion. I do spray, I'm just not as consistent as I should be about it. I find it is just easier to plant resistant roses, and keep the garden clean so as to minimize blackspot
    I'll take a look at WS 2000. Maybe there is a good red China or Tea I should consider?

  • 3 years ago

    I have this rose and find it most disappointing . It is nothing like as good as Roseraie de L, Hay. I doesn't even look like a rugosa, albeit a hybrid . It has a nice scent but is quite a week cultivar and does not send up many shoots from the base even when pruned .I have it growing next to Roseraie de L,Hay ,which is a wonderful plant . They were both bought from Peter Beale many years ago so are authentic .Anita Allen

  • 3 years ago

    I forgot to add that it does not repeat but the flowers smell nice and are shapely. However there are much better rugosa types around . I have t date 81 older scented roses in the gardens here in north devon Anita Allen

  • 3 years ago

    Everyone agrees with you on this one, Anita.

  • 2 years ago

    I can't understand these reviews. Perhaps mine is not a true Parfum de L'Hay? All I know is that it is my favorite rose -- outstanding in every way: fabulous fragrance, vigorous growth, first to bloom and last to stop blooming. Finally, don't tell anyone, but the petals are super amazing to eat! I make rose pastries to die for. And I cultivate all the most fragrant roses: Gertrude Jekyl, Papa Meilland, Mme Isaac Pereire, and many more, yet this is the star of the show. "Old Rose" fragrance too, not just funny fragrance. Since you say it does not repeat, mine must be something else, so I should re-name it. Very dark red, and loaded with thorns.

  • 2 years ago

    Roseraie de L'Hay is so wonderful, I wonder if you have that, Tree.

  • 2 years ago

    I don't have that one, but I can't keep up with the ones I've got. My whole collection is selected for fragrance.

  • 2 years ago

    I'm saying RdlHay is so wonderful that might be what you already have instead of Parfum, Tree.

  • 2 years ago
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    I would love to hear more about Tree Roland's rose garden selected for fragrance. It is the sort of thing I live for,

  • 2 years ago

    You may be right, Sheila -- it doesn't sound like Parfum from the other comments. The edible petals are the real trick - no bitter aftertaste, just sweet old rose flavor. Does that sound like Roseraie de L'Hay? As to other roses besides those already mentioned, I have a Crimson Glory I found at Walmart for $8 -- what a score! I also like Mme Ernst Calvat. Also, the old roses, such as Rose de Rescht, Ispahan, Baronne Prevost, Comte de Chambord. All "rose colored" except for the amazing Sutter's Gold -- such a glorious yellow rose, super fragrant, that there is no point looking at any other yellow roses.

  • 2 years ago

    "Rose" is not only the name of a flower, but it is also the name of a color and of a fragrance. In my collection I search for "old rose" fragrance.


  • 2 years ago

    Yours really does sound like RdlHay, Tree.


  • 9 days ago

    Pardon me for butting in here ... I mostly lurk, here in the Roses. I am curious, what sort of zone do you live in, Tree? Bc I too am in search of fragrant roses. (I didn't even know rugosas were fragrant ... )

  • 8 days ago

    I grow RdlaHay here in hot So Oregon, Need, and it is wonderful here. I got mine from Greenmantle.


  • 7 days ago

    Is the name of the rose actually "Parfum de L'Hay", or something else? HMF said there was no such rose in their database with that name.

    Jackie

  • 7 days ago

    Rose à Parfum de l'Hay

    https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5463.1

    Helpmefind does have it also listed as Parfum de l'Hay

  • 7 days ago

    Roseraie de l'Hay is so much better. Now I'll shut up.

  • 6 days ago

    I got 'Rose à Parfum de l'Hay' from Pickering 28 years ago and grew it for about 4 years before unceremoniously and without hesitation, removing it from my garden. It grew reasonably well and the blooms were beautiful and quite fragrant, but I have never seen a rose so crippled by Rust as this one was. Oh, I'm sure there are locations where Rust isn't going to be a problem and this rose might thrive and make an admirable specimen, but that clearly wasn't going to happen here in the PNW.

    As Sheila states, 'Roseraie de l'Hay' is a much better rose in every way. And yes — these are two distinct varieties and should not be confused.

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