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trees with agaves

16 years ago

Hi all,

I am planting up the street next to my house. All squared away with the city for approvals. One issue remains.

The planting side borders train tracks. I plant to plant tough, evergreen trees as a visual barrier, and hope to build a sound wall behind the trees as a noise barrier too (I'm getting grants)

In order to prevent homeless encampments on the street side, I'll be placing boulders, and planting spiky agaves, cacti and yuccas along the treeline.

This is a full sun, hot, dry area, so the plantings must be very drought tolerant.

My concern is leaf litter getting into the agaves and messing them up. Even with evergreen trees this will be an issue.

Have you planted agaves etc under trees, and how did it turn out? Do you have other suggestions to this problem? Best tree species to use? I could just plant yuccas instead of trees I suppose, but I'd like to provide some trees as shade - plus they'll screen noise faster than yuccas.

thanks

Comments (4)

  • 16 years ago

    If you can imagine being in the mountains in the SW. In the Big Bend of TX, up in the mountains, the Agave havardiana grows along with junipers, pinyon pines, oaks etc...You might try to emulate plantings such as this that can handle natural rainfall. Other spiny shrubs and small trees will keep the unwanted out too. Dasylirions work well along with Agaves , Yuccas etc. for a hedge to keep people out.

  • 16 years ago

    you didnt mention where you are---if you are in arizona the trees mentioned above (which are potentially excellent suggestions) are used to getting by with at least some normal summer rainfall if you are in the interior valleys of california (for example) you would generally not expect summer rainfall and might have to consider providing someadditional water for trees during the summer. of course all the plants will need regular irrigation for at least the first year or so during the dry season. the agaves may not be happy under evergreen trees especially those with dense crowns. you might consider some at least briefly deciduous desert trees like cercidium (palo verde) or porosopis (mesquite) which will provide light shade during the warm season while letting the sun in during the winter. their small leaves quickly dry up once they fall and should not mess up the agaves. the evegreen large shrub/small trees known as fremontidendron are very drought tolerant one established and have spectacular spring flowers and might make a striking screen. other evergreen trees to consider inclufe acacia stenophylla, cupressus arizonica ssp. glabra, cupressus forbesii, and possible brachychiton populinifolia (bottle tree), also the palms washingtonia filifera and robusta as well as brahea armata and finally ocotillo (fouquiria splendens) a large multi-stemmed cactus like plant with spiny stems and brilliant red flowers as another possible screen. hope this helps.

  • 16 years ago

    The Ponderosa pine needles are messy, but they don't phase this Agave americana.
    Live oak, Black oak, Mimosa, and Acacia growing in the same vicinity. I think
    you could plant some drought-tolerant, fairly low-mess Juniper species nearby.

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  • 16 years ago

    For a quick, evergreen screen with similar exposure as yours, I planted Acacia saligna. Works great.