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Do I need more green?

19 years ago

I've got a compost pile, about a yard, going which is horse manure from a stable (had lot of straw and saw dust mixed it). It was hot, but I wet it then turned it. It got hot again, but no where near as hot as it was....

The above is just the beginning of the story. Here's where I'm at now. I just added about a square bale of straw to it and am now worried I might be really short on greens. The reason I say this is because it never got hot, hot like it was before.

What should I do?? Should I go up to the farm and get a few cow patties to add or just let it go? I can get more horse manure but I don't have the room. I can also get chicken droppings but it's just to dang far away and I'm thinking it might be to hot.

This might be wrong but but I've got some Miracle Grow, can I add that to get it really going again?

So what do you composters think I should do???

Comments (9)

  • 19 years ago

    What you have initially in place might reheat after a flip or two, but that might well be it for heat from that material. It's energy depletes. It doesn't reheat forever with additional turning.

    A whole bale of straw is a lot, sounds like you are short on greens. Any green will do. If you can't fit it in you could divide that pile into two, adding more greens of your choice (manure, chicken poop, grass clippings, coffee grounds) to each. That would probably generate heat again.

    Karen

  • 19 years ago

    Miracle grow isn't a good choice, but something organic like blood meal would be OK, and a small volume at that

    Karen

  • 19 years ago

    I don't know why I forgot about using myself.

    Once the sun goes down, I'm going to go start pissing in my pile. Urine... it's sterile, natural, and high in nitrogen.

    Wish me luck!!

  • 19 years ago

    Better start drinking a lot of beer now. You might need a lot of pee to balance out a whole bale of straw.

    Karen

  • 19 years ago

    Do you think apples will work as a nitrogen source? I've got hundreds on my tree that I know I can't eat and I don't want to put them in if they will be considered brown.

    BTW, I've did my deed in my compost pile a few hours ago. :)

  • 19 years ago

    As the Nitrogen is used in the composting process that limits the amount of food available for the bacteria that process the Carbon and over time the compost pile that once was hot will cool off. You want that to happen, or you would never get your compost into the garden.
    If you add more of a high Carbon material you will need to balance that with some high Nitrogen material.
    Miricle Grow is a water soluble source of nutrients, meaning that what is not immediately taken up be plants flows out of the soil and into the water supply adding to the pollution of our water.

  • 19 years ago

    Urine is a quick way to balance lots of carbon. Our pile gets very hot and that is our secret ingredient. Actually, we are more often short of Browns.

  • 19 years ago

    Cover the pile with grass clippings. It will heat up in no time.

  • 19 years ago

    One thing you left out in the original post is the amount of time involved. How much time passed between when you started the compost and when it got hot? How much time between then and turning it? How much time before you then decided it had cooled off?

    It could be that what you saw was the normal composting cycle and you added straw to almost finished compost. Maybe if you had let it decompose a little longer, you'd have had some nice compost ready to use. Since you added the straw, you'll need a nitrogen source.

    I'm not sure if apples will provide much nitrogen. I think they're mostly sugar and water, but I seem to recall reading that fruits and vegetables are considered greens.

    Any chance of picking up coffee grounds from coffee shops or restaurants? Starbucks has a corporate policy of giving them to anybody who asks, but other places may be willing to save them for you also.