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Peace Rose with no pink?

13 years ago

I have been looking for an old-fashioned Peace rose for a while now and finally found one at Home Depot. The bush was actually in really good shape and already had a couple blooms and tons of buds. Now it is covered in about 6 giant blooms, but the color is very pale washed out yellow with absolutely no pink edging detectable at all. Is it possible that it's not really Peace? Or will it improve when I actually plant it out into some decent soil?

I have it under my covered patio so I don't think it's the sun washing out the colors.

Here are a couple pics. Sorry for the darkness, but the sun's already gone down:

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Does this look like a true Peace to you? I also bought a Chicago Peace but there were no open blooms. There is a bud so will have to see if it looks right.

Where could I buy a good quality potted Peace if I need to get another one?

Comments (9)

  • 13 years ago

    Oh, my. Never seen a Peace that was this pale. My favorite rose. None of the pics on HMF look like this either. Hmmm. Commercially available , should be able to find one at your local garden centers. I got an own root a few years ago. The only one that has ever lived thru my Chicago winters.

  • 13 years ago

    I'd plant it, and let it settle in a couple of months, and then have another look at the flowers as they bloom. A potted rose bought and placed on a shaded patio can produce flowers very different from what they would look like planted in a garden setting. My 'Peace' in a shaded situation would produce very pale yellow flowers. With sun it pinked up and yellow up considerably.

    The foliage of 'Peace' is quite recognizable, a leaf photo (in daylight) would be helpful. 'Peace' has leathery, thick foliage with bubble-shapes or small domes here and there on the leaves.

    If you want quality roses, the best time is late December, when the first of the roses harvested a few weeks earlier are available. A good garden center is a more reliable choice than a big-box store.

    Roses bought at this time of year have been sitting around since last autumn either refrigerated, bagged, or in pots waiting to be sold.

    Look for firm, fresh green canes (stems) without spots or injuries such as scrapes and cuts, which indicate rough handling. Avoid anything that looks dried out.

    Fresh is as important with plants as it is with food!

  • 13 years ago

    Hoov, yes I would prefer a fresh plant also, but I have looked everywhere and this is the first one I could find. At least it was potted so it was never a bareroot.

    I plucked a few of the leaves and they are indeed quite leathery and a medium green. In between the veins that come off the midline there are indeed puckers or bubbles that raise up so it may very well be a Peace.

    I thought putting it out in the hot sun would wash it out more, but maybe sunlight is needed for the pink to develop. I moved it out from under the patio to see what happens. I also top dressed the pot with some nice composted horse manure and have given it some liquid fertilizer. I'll just have to see if getting out of that crowded table at Home Depot and giving it much better care with consistent watering and feeding will "pink" it up.

  • 13 years ago

    I wouldn't mess around with it much until you get it planted. There are many issues which can affect the color of those blooms. They DO look quite a bit too white to be correct, but it still may color-up for you...once it gets some roots under it and begins maturing. Give it a try before you cook it with too much heat or fertilizer in too small a pot. Kim

  • 13 years ago

    The leaves of the plant in your picture do show the characteristic puckered look of Peace.

    It is possible you have a sport. Peace produced, and still produces, many sports. If the plant was produced by budding, the producers might not have known they had a new rose.

    It should be very interesting to see what comes of your rose once it is planted outside. If you do have an unknown sport, it may well revert, in some branches, to the original parent. You would then have the Peace you wanted and another rose unique to your yard. Unfortunately the period of great popularity for Peace has passed, so new sports likely have little commercial potential.

    I share your liking for Peace and indeed for the entire sport family. I only wish more of them had survived the whims of popular fashion.

  • 13 years ago

    Very important to plant it in the ground somewhere where it will get full sun! Peace is a big rose, and who knows how long it has been in that pot. The leaves do look like Peace to me, as do the shapes of the blooms.

    If for some reason you cannot possibly plant it in the ground, get a MUCH bigger pot (like HUGE) and pot it into that, and put it into the sun.

    Jackie

  • 13 years ago

    The plant looks very healthy but who knows what kind of conditions those buds were set under. Weather, soil and care conditions can have a great effect on a roses color. The bloom itself looks like Peace to me. Plant it and let it settle in and mature some before making any judgments. And if it were mine I'd get it out into the sunlight pronto! Being in the shade may be why it's so pale. Some roses only color up in bright sun.

  • 13 years ago

    Agree with many of the posters - Peace can vary considerably, depending on conditions. I have had flushes with almost no pink whatsoever. Keep in mind that the pink in Peace is very subtle. It's mostly a pale-yellow to white, with pink highlights in good sun. Lots of rain and cloudy days combined with high heat will turn mine into a pale yellow with little highlights.

    The leaves look right to me - although as some have said, the photo and lighting are not exactly conducive to a good ID.

  • 13 years ago

    Well after moving out into the sun i did notice some blush developing on some of the blooms, so I think it is Peace. I also repotting into Al's 5-1-1 mix. Anxious to see how it responds.