Are the white spots only on the gill plates? If so, no worries. Your fish are sexually mature males, and those white spots are called tubercules :)

no they are on their heads. One more question if i have a female black moor and two male oranda's can they breed?

Maybe it's ick? You should Google it and see if the description and/or pictures match.

it came off when i whiped it with a cotten bud but then reappeard the next day was it a bad thing to try and get it off. how is ick cured?

Ich can be cured by raising your heat, for goldfish gradually up to 80F, and gradually adding salt. There are stronger medications for stronger strains of ICH but this is a sure fire method for me. This link will explain it in detail. If you have no heater, most people don't for goldies, no biggy. The heat just speeds up the ICH life cycle, salt kills them.

Here is a link that might be useful: ICH article from Lyretails Aquarium

So its on top of the head? Is just a spot or does it come up and off the head? Is there any hind of red on or around the spot? Can you post any photos? That would help a lot. Since we don't know what's going on yet, try this. Once a day, catch the fish and keep it still so the top of their heads are exposed to air. Gently swab with a little household Hydrogen Peroxide, and make sure it doesn't get in their eyes, mouths, or gills. Dissolve 1 teaspoon of aquarium salt per gallon in your tank in a bucket of dechlorinated water, then add to tank for a .1% salinity. 12 hours later, do the same again to up it to .2% 12 hours after that, add one more teaspoon per gallon dissolved, for a total of 3 teaspoons per gallon at .3% salinity. It must be aquarium salt. Salt will kill off many types of parasites, some bacterial, and some fungal illnesses without harming the fish. Moniter the ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate to make sure things are perfect.

Before you add the salt...this is a goldfish only tank, right? Some fish can not tolerate salt like cories and some types of tetra.

thanx for all your advice yes the spotws are just on the hood there are no red bits on them they are quite large like bread crumbs.They are only on the hood and none of my other fish have them. the other fish in the tank are gold fish and a black moor

Sierra, would the white bits of new growth swab off? I've heard of this a lot, but I don't know if it would come off like that since I've never kept oranda's myself.

Sadly last night the chocolate oranda died, i really dont want my red-capped to die aswell i will try and post a picture of the spots but i am unsure how to do it any advice?
The white spots did come off but the grew back the next day so i have just left them now. Any one know how this can be cured.
thanx

To take a decent picture of fish, you'll need a digital camera that has a setting to take pictures of things that are close. You might be able to get a good picture off a cheaper digital camera so long as the picture is big enough that you can shrink it to improve the image quality once it's on the computer. You'll wanna take a whole bunch from varying angles and distances to ensure you've got a good picture. A lot of times they look clear on the screen, but they're crap once they're on the computer. Also remember to turn the flash off. My fish don't much care for that, and it reflects off the glass anyway.

Once you've got your picture(s), you can upload it to a free website. The only good one I know offhand is Photobucket. They give you a rediculously huge amount of bandwidth and storage space.

You might also consider catching your fish in some kind of plastic container and taking it to a pet shop or two. The people there will probably be able to recognize whatever it is, and you can buy the proper medication right there. Though I don't know if being moved to a container would stress your fish or not. I know my betta would be okay with it, but maybe that's just his personality.

I don't know if the new growth would swab off because I would never try to swab anything off an oranda, or any other kind of fish for that matters. Swabbing can risk causing damage to the fish.

Have you taken water quality tests? Perhaps do several water changes....25 - 50% perday for the next two weeks....and see if this will improve this situation. Add a little aquarium salt to this tank as well.

How big is your aquarium? Goldfish need a lot of space...20 - 30 gallons per fish is ideal. If you are housing them in less than this....lots of water changes are a must.

Transporting a sick fish might not be a good idea ...as everytime you transport a fish they get stressed. A sick fish might not be able to handle that.

Ummm you don't really need a digital camera, a film camera will work just fine. Stand at 45 degree angle to the aquarium, if you use flash this will bounce the reflected flash away from your lens....so your pic will be clear.

Sierra

the white spot have started to go as i have been cleaning the water regulary. The hood has got larger were the spots are so may just have been were it was growing i shall post pics anyway i just need to find my cam.