I checked Joan Richardson profile on HMF. She posted some nice pics. of yellow rose that I like. I'm glad that someone improves Ebb Tide, since it lasts only 1 day as cut flower, and the color is too dark for me.

With my big disappointment in Jacques Cartier and Paul Neyron, I'm all for better, and newer crosses.

I spent many years in zone 5. I could not then have imagined how difficult it would be to tolerate the cold after living in Florida for a few years. The Archduke is a well reputed performer of the Deep South (I don't grow him but I've read many good things about him). I guess what I'm saying is that this cross isn't likely to produce an improvement for colder climes but subsequent generations eventually may. And of course, I'm just hopeful. Genetic variability being what it is, there are no guarantees. But I'm very hopeful that this is a good marriage.

She's also using Francis Dubrieul.
Yummy.
I don't understand though how a cross can be a cross and be Open Pollinated at the same time. I thought it was one or the other.

Here is a link that might be useful: Open Pollinated Francis Dubrieul X Ebb Tide

Could it be (Open Pollinated Francis Dubreuil) x 'Ebb Tide'
rather than (Open Pollinated) Francis Dubreuil x Ebb Tide'?

In other words an open pollinated seedling of FD which was then crossed with ET, rather than an open pollinated seeding that came from an FD that had an ET nearby.

The way it's written, it's probably a self set seed on the seedling, Francis Dubreuil X Ebb Tide. She first created that cross, which then set a hip. Listing the entire cross would then be [(Francis Dubreuil X Ebb Tide) X (Francis Dubreuil X Ebb Tide)]. Kim

Hi, i am new to this site and was just browsing and saw Ebb Tide in a header. I planted this rose the first week of january and it is covered with several sprays and just started to bloom- i live in coastal california. Oh my, am I ever glad i planted this rose!!!! Was worried that the purple blooms might be a disappointment but they are so incredibly dark purple!!!! The scent is fantastic. just wanted to add something. hoping to learn even more about roses to make my rose garden even better.

I've been wanting a red violet rose for a long time.

Wait, an introduction is in order first: Judith Singer (Jude) is a hybridizer/breeder in beautiful Tucson. I know many of you already know of her work because her roses require wait listing at Rogue Valley. But many of you may not. The link below is to photos of some of her roses on HMF.

There's also: www.hot-roses.com

Here is a link that might be useful: Photos on HMF

My Ebb Tide was unhappy last year (planted her from a 5g just in time for a heat wave and gopher who was hunting his way through the basket)

But boy is she happy this year!

I was sharing my desire for a red violet rose.

Here is a link that might be useful: Clem

Ebb Tide has a sibling named Route 66, and Judith Singer and others are working with it. Route 66 is lovely too, IMHO.
Anyway, the link in the post above, Clem, is a photo of a Judith Singer Route 66 seedling she posted. I hope my keyboard doesn't short out from all the drool.

It would not be fair to say that I'm happier than Mr. Carruth about his beautiful child, Ebb Tide, nor about its growing list of progeny. But then life isn't fair, so I'll assert it anyway!

More children with talk of future children! See link below:

Here is a link that might be useful: A very,very vigorous offspring of EBB TIDE

While I'm here, I should provide the caveat emptor that Judith Singer only warrants that her roses are mildew resistant. They have not really been tested for blackspot resistance. She makes no attempt at deception; she clearly states this. But for those that don't read all the details, I don't want to be told that I was misleading. Okay, then.

And the "permission denied" link was to a specific photo in the same thread on Ebb Tide posted earlier - repeated below. "Clem" requires scrolling down. Hopefully, she will add the photo to the HMF collection for direct linkage in the future.

Here is a link that might be useful: new blooms for 2013