I have a plant of Baronne Henriette Snoy which I purchased as a 1-gallon from Roses Unlimited last spring. Obviously, with such a young plant, I can't really offer much in-depth info, but I CAN tell you that it's a seriously healthy rose. I'm in a cool-climate coastal zone 8b, which is probably NOT the right place for this rose, but it has NO mildew (Lady Hillingdon, Crepuscule, Oklahoma & Mme Isaac Pereire ALL have mildew right now) negligible blackspot, and it has sent up two BIG basal shoots, and plenty of new growth from the rest of the bush. However, mine is not in the ground, but planted in a LARGE pot (which I know will make everyone laugh, but whatever). She seems to be happy healthy and busy right now, with buds (which I've picked off, except one)...but who knows. She could change her mind later...

I am reluctant to SP good roses, by which I mean healthy ones, just because they do not please me. I'm perfectly happy to dig up and dispose of ones that are martyr to disease and do not outgrow it after a couple or three years. On the other hand, garden space is at a premium for most of us, and the whole point of roses in the garden is to bring us joy.

If you are inclined to give it another chance, you could try moving it to different spot to see if it is happier there, and if you are happier with it. Otherwise, why not try to find another gardener who would enjoy it more? I have given away any number of roses for exactly this reason.

Rosefolly

Thanks for your answers, forum maties.I hope to hear more; maybe I'll go and post the same query on Paul Zimmerman and Peter Beales' forums,just to get more input. I agree with what you say, Rosefolly,and I do in fact know someone I could give it to as well. But even if I opt for that, I want to be sure that I'm not giving her a fundamentally "duddy" sort of rose---like E. Veyrat Hermanos. Seduced by stunning cheese-cake photos of the individual flowers, I bought this rose. It was a magnificently healthy, fast growing plant,but the flowers were wretched; either they balled, were consumed by thrips and chewed by other bugs,etc. The few decent blooms I ever saw were nothing to write home about, either; they basically just said "double yellow tea rose". I asked about it on this forum,thinking that maybe it's poor performance was due to my lack of knowledge,rough conditions of my garden, etc,but none of the answers I recieved gave me the idea that the rose would really deserve a second chance,so I did sp that one and don't regret it. So I want to "shop around" a bit more on rose forums, to hear as many opinions as possible to help me decide. bart

Gee Bart, I am so shallow I never got past the name - Baronne Henrietta Snoy....Snoooooyyyy. Baronne Snooooyyyyy gah!

Just couldn't get my head around it. Mind, I am buggered if I am going to plant anything called Radox Bouquet, Mac'n Cheese, or any obvious marketing ploy (Happy Anniversary, Mother's Day) or any celeb, actor or politico (especially politicos, although I might consider Karl Marx (if it existed) just to wreck people's heads)

Bart, like ZJW, I have Snooooooy in a pot. New this spring and grafted on fort. She is blooming stingily but when I get a pretty bloom----WOW. Give her some TLC? She's worth a try.
Susan

I think you should give her the same royal treatment as RdV and see what happens before introducing La Madame de Shovel. If she dramatically improves then you have a beautiful rose. B-U-T if she continues to disappoint, well then at least you tried and can murder the loser free of guilt.

Thanks for these opinions, people! I may not opt for spoiling the Baronne as I did with RdV, just because, as I said, it never really bowled me over as an over-all plant,though I do agree with you Susan; when one does get a good flower, it is indeed something! But in my very large landscape, I 'm beginning to feel that the ones that work best and give most satisfaction are those that give an over-all spectacular effect,and my conditions are so rough that I really can't afford more than one or two "primadonnas". But it may well be worthwhile to give the Baronne to someone who can provide cushier conditions and maybe also has a more "intimate" style of garden,so they will be able to feel more love for the Baronne...Please, people, the more opinions the merrier! thanks again to all who have responded! bart

Bart, put her in a pot and get intimate with her! Give her your best for one more season. . . And then...you can still be friends if she doesn't meet yiour expectations.
Susan

You're convincing me,Susan... bart

I had her in my super hot climate and she was very healthy and bloomed non stop. Not much fragrance though. Unfortunately I moved her and she died. I would get her again but am trying to cut back on roses now due to water, heat, and amount of work the roses take.

I noticed a bit of fragrance. She really truly is gorgeous. Mine again, is young but I find she is unique and worth the attention...but then again, I can be fickle.
Heard any further opinions on any other forums?
Mine is a creamy pink. No yellow....
Susan

Haven't gotten a lot of info from other forums (I should post the question to more probably). I seem to remember somebody on this forum saying that the Baronne hates being pruned a lot,which I'd have to do in order to move it. So I think the pot idea is best, rather than giving it away,so if it croaks,it won't be a big deal.The whole "improving the soil" thing is so much work; I think I'd prefer just putting a less demanding rose in the Baronne's spot; one that can stand up to the thuggish Marie Nabonnand. bart

You know, I was out of town for about 5 days, and I came back to find my Henriette Snoy exploding with buds and new growth! I am so impressed (so far)...STILL no mildew or even any real blackspot.

Mine has been disease free all summer. Lots of rain (unusual for here). She is in a pot.
Susan

Susan, how old is yours? Are you planning to keep it in a pot? I know that BHS is one of those teas that can get quite large...
I AM planning to keep mine in a pot, mostly so that I can control soil quality, etc.

Zachary.

Hmm...I thought I posted a message yesterday, but it didn't work, I see.Anyway, Zachary,I confess that I am a bit worried about the Baronne in a pot. Mine is 3-4 years old,and is about between 5 and 6 feet tall, 4-5 feet wide. So maybe a very BIG pot? bart

Zachary, mine is new. Grafted on fortuniana. I hope to keep it in a pot but I'm not sure. At this stage I am just acquiring roses to see how they perform as far as disease before I put them into the ground. Fragrance and repeat are also very important. So right now, I mostly have a rose nursery.
How old is yours Zachary? What size pot do you expect will be her final home?
Bart, I thought it took a loooong time for teas to grow to their mature size. You are going to need a big pot...or maybe root prune her?
Susan