Growing Jasmines into Climbing Roses?

13 years ago

I am awaiting a few shipments of roses, one of which contains a band of William Lobb. I am considering ordering a white Jasmine vine (once William matures in a year or two) and growing it into the rose in order to provide further color and fragrance.

I wonder, however, if Jasmines will choke out roses. Has anyone tried this before? Here is a pic of the combo. I really hope it works out.

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plan9fromposhmadison

13 years ago

Josh, you might want to try 'Confederate Jasmine' (Trachelospermum jasminoides) instead. I'm in 8a, too, and while they seem hardy here, and quite a few people have them planted, they don't seem to get out of bounds.

At our garden center, I've noticed a tri-color variegated Asiatic Jasmine. No blooms, of course, but the foliage would be interesting, and the colors (I've just looked at close-ups of both William Lobb and the Jasmine) seem as if the Jasmine would appear as part of the rose.

Asiatic Jasmine is mostly a groundcover. However, It climbs about as well as does a Toad (with difficulty). In other words, the Jasmine wouldn't go very far up the rose without your help. This, I would regard as an advantage.

Because there is less green to the leaves for photosynthesis, I'm guessing that a varigated Jasmine would be much less rampant.

Yesterday, I spotted something sold as "Evergreen Wisteria - Bush Form". It had lime/chartreuse green leaves and wine colored flowers (In August). So, this is apparently a cultivar of one of our native (less vigorous and 'ever-blooming') Wisterias. One of the selling points on the tag was its non-invasiveness.

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jacqueline9CA
13 years ago
That would depend on what kind of jasmine it is, and what its growing habit/density, etc. is. I have a "star Jasmine" on my house that is 3 stories tall, and it would definitely NOT work with a rose. It is very dense, and tries to block all of our windows - my DH spent the day on a ladder today cutting it away from the windows, and attacking the rest of it with hedge clippers to keep it from enveloping the path next to the house.

Jackie
joshtx
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13 years ago
The type of jasmine I am looking at is called Jasminum Azoricum. I wish I knew more about its growth habit...

Josh
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AquaEyes 7a NJ
13 years ago
Josh, do you think that species will survive your winters? Perhaps you'd be better off looking at Jasminum officinale. And for even stronger contrast, consider one of the gold-leafed cultivars.

I was considering trying what you're describing (not just with Jasminum, but also some other vines like Clematis and a few non-rampant Lonicera, and perhaps some annual fragrant Lathyrus), but will wait until the climbers are at least the mature height of the vine companion will be. I know Clematis tend to take a year or two to take off, but I'd rather have the "living trellis" already in-place.

Many Jasmines grow more like "scramblers" than "climbers" and can get rather full and bushy. Be sure that any climbing rose you pair with it will have enough growth "above and beyond" the Jasmine's spread.

:-)

~Christopher
AquaEyes 7a NJ
13 years ago
I take back my "Jasminum officinale" suggestion. I put it on my list, but not for a climbing rose, because it gets huge. I just remembered I was thinking of using it to grow into a big evergreen shrub.

:-/

~Christopher
hoovb zone 9 sunset 23
13 years ago
I'd use a type III Clematis, which can be cut to the ground every year and easily pulled out of the rose at pruning time.
daisyincrete Z10? 905feet/275 metres
13 years ago
I think any jasmine would be much too large for William Lobb. I agree with Hoovb, a viticella clematis would work much better.
I find when you cut the clematis back in winter, it is best to leave it for a week or two to dry up. That way, the prunings come away from the rose cleanly, without pulling half the rose with them.
Daisy
jardineratx
12 years ago
I have grown asiatic jasmine, star jasmine and "maid of Orleans" jasmine and I would not consider growing any of these into a climbing rose. Once established, these jasmines can be quite vigorous and their foliage and stems are too thick and dense to allow proper light and circulation for the rose to thrive (although it will probably survive). I am in southeast Texas and these jasmines are evergreen, which means the rose would never get open sunshine and air. Of course, I realize others may be pleased with the combination of jasmine and roses, but this has been my experience with them.
Molly