I have that one..it is a nice, white, Noisette I grow mine as a climber against a 8 foor fence..it has reached the top and is all along the top of the fence, it has a nice fragrance..it stays pretty clean.

I was sent cuttings several years ago and told that it was found at a church (Church of the Good Shepherd?) on the east coast. I gave Carrie one of them this spring and still have the other. The only problem I had was it was an instigator of blackspot in it's former location. and it was too upright for the wagon wheel pole we put the 2 of them on.

I have or had one in Texas - seems like I got it from Pickering of all places.

I got it from RU but Ashdowns has some info and a pic of it in their library

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Kaye, are you saying one rose that is prone to BS can be an instigator to where the other roses get it? If so then I've got some that I need to go ahead and take out. I've been keeping them around, thinking that it was OK, I didn't mind leaflessness as long as they bloomed.
I planted that monster Good Shepard Noisette that Kaye gave me and it's grown some, but not bloomed yet, and it does have BS and pretty severe defoliation when none of the other roses in the "new" rose garden have shown much BS.
To be fair, though, this rose was so mature when I got it from Kaye that I planted it in a crowded spot without much air circulation, thinking that it would shoot straight up from that spot and up onto the arbor which would be more air circulation.

Dear all,

Thank you very much for your feedback. I just checked Ashdowns' Library and saw the picture for the first time. This rose is beautiful! I need to think what I can do though since I don't have a spot for a climber and I still have Narrow Water.

Carrie, the one that I have left has no BS but has been sprayed regularly at a pruned size. Air circulation may have been a problem (and too much shade) where I had them planted on the wagon wheel. I haven't seen a bloom since digging them up last year..but it was a good while originally before they bloomed. Repeat was good once establsished. As to the BS, when Good Shepherd was in the garden was the first time I saw spots on Marie Van Houtte , SDLM and Levesuve, it's close neighbors.