Diana -- YOU WILL LOVE IT!!!

I first saw it in the Sacramento City Cemetery, where it was easily 12 ft tall. It really doesn't have a climbing habit -- it's just BIG.
The one I have here is perhaps 4.5 ft now, but it is growing well. I hope I see it hit 10-12 ft one of these days.

The blooms are -- yes -- rather unusual, with curling ribbon-like petals. I was so STARTLED when someone told me that they did not like the form of Le Pactole! It is a creamy white, with a lemon center, showing a relationship to Lamarque.

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As the plant matures, it starts to put out more sprays.
It's rapidly becoming one of my favorite roses.

Jeri

Gorgeous pics, Jeri! Brandy

Jeri, Beauuutiful!

Jerome

So beautiful, Jeri!

Akira

There are two Le Pactoles in Regina's photograph in the Sacramento Cemetery. The roses would have been about a dozen years old at that time. Soon after this was taken, they got pruned very hard by an overzealous volunteer, but recovered pretty well in a couple of years. It's made them easier to prune and keep out of the paths, so no harm was done. Today, they are about 9-10 ft tall - they seem taller because they are in raised plots. As you can see in the photo, they aren't climbers, and they get wider than tall. They are in bloom constantly. Jeri's right - if you've got the space, this rose is a keeper.
Anita

Here is a link that might be useful: Le Pactole

Holy Moly! That is a gorgeous rose! How could anyone not love that?

Thank you Jeri & Anita,
Now the trick will be where to put it! I just potted up the band a month ago, and it has new growth everywhere. I will have to find something else for my trellis, but this is a nice surprise.
Diana

Absolutely gorgeous pictures, Jeri. White roses are not my favorites but this one I would definitely get if I had the room. It's one of those roses that make my heart beat faster. I've seen other pictures of it but yours are the most beautiful.

Thanks.

Ingrid

Ingrid, I probably have one of the more mature plants of Le Pactole, having acquired it before it was returned to commerce. This is DEFINITELY a rose which keeps improving with maturity.

Jeri

I was thinking that if this rose wasn't Le Pactole that it would be either Lamarque or Thomsville Lamarque. The leaves don't appear to be as large as the leaves on either of the Lamarques, and they seem to be a darker green. I guess the flowers are so similar since Le Pactole is supposed to have Lamarque in it's parentage. I just want to place this in the rignt place. I'll post photos if it flowers again.
Diana

First -- and REALLY this isn't a dumb question -- does the nursery who sent you this rose offer 'Le Pactole'????

Second -- It came with bloom? Do you have a pix?

Jeri

Yes the nursery does offer Le Pactole, I was thinking Le Pactole rather than Lamarque since I used to visit their retail store and all of the bands were grouped by class. It came with a bud and has bloomed once more since I have had it. That is the Dumb part, I just noticed that it wasn't the right color. I have to get a new digital camera since mine is so old that it doesn't work with my new computer. I can try to borrow one if it blooms soon.

Diana

That's a good clue.
Truth is, though, you may end up having to grow it up to be sure.

Jeri

Jeri
Just one more question, do both of these roses have a blush of pink? The first bloom had a pink tinge around the center. I can't believe how similar these roses look. I have wanted Lamarque for a long time, haven't ordered yet because I was trying to decide between the two Lamarque's. Anyway I may just have to be patient and see what happens.

Diana

The form of Lamarque and Le Pactole aren't really all that much alike. Well, to my eye they aren't. (The color is a close match tho).
Here's 'Lamarque,'
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and you can see that it does not have those sinuous, ribbon-like petals which Le Pactole presents.

OH -- and I've never seen the slightest speck of pink on either of 'em. Maybe someone else has?????

Jeri

Wow Jeri
They are both so beautiful! The flower does look much more like Le Pactole, and there aren't thorns at all. The first flower has a tinge of pink, but the second one didn't. Anyway Thank you for all of your help and I think that I will have to wait and see.

Diana

Diana, the first bloom my Le Pactole produced also had a tinge of pink, but I didn't see it happen again until almost a year later, when most of the blooms opening over a two or three period were white with a pink blush. A weather effect, I assume. A week later it was back to the normal creamy yellow blooms.
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This bloom is more representative.
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It's likely a climate thing. I've had Le Pactole here for at least 6 years. For at least 5 years,
it was right outside my back door, where I was close to it daily.
I have never seen it with a pink tone. Hotter weather, it's whiter. Cooler weather, it's more lemony.
Very interesting!

Jeri

Rosyone
Thank you for the photos, the pink tinge is exactly like my flower, and the last photo is exactly like my second bloom.

Diana