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Daredevil Fall Pruning

14 years ago

Most rosarians in my area of W. PA wait until spring, when the daffodils and forsythia begin to bloom, to prune their roses.

Since I grow only the cast iron roses, like: hybrid rugosas, Buck roses, very hardy OGRs such as polyanthas and Portlands. etc., I discovered that I can do a complete, spring type pruning in the late fall (as late as possible so as not to stimulate, by pruning, a premature break of dormancy), just after Thanksgiving but before Christmas, with excellent results.

Before you say I'm off my rocker, let me tell you why I fall prune, and the benefits of this unusual method.

By the way, I do not recommend anyone follow my example, at least not on a grand scale. Maybe experiment with a few bushes this year and progress slowly and carefully thereafter. "What works for me may not work for you." The class of roses you grow will have a great deal to do with whether success is possible.

A number of years ago I got the bright idea to completely interplant my rose bed with ONLY crocus and miniature daffodils (Tet a' Tet, and Minnow)...easy to grow, blooms earlier than standard daffodils, stays low, not interfering with the roses when they commence growing, and because the foliage is so small and comes earlier, it's less of an eyesore until it fully rots after blooming, well before 4th. of July.

I did not realize that with the multitude of them growing in every available space between the roses I could not walk through the rose bed to prune it in the spring, which roughly coincides with these spring bloomers' peak of bloom! My rose bed is too large and wide to reach in and prune; I have to walk right into the bed to prune it.

I got the bright idea, since my roses are so hardy and have almost no winter damage with no protection right up to last year's tips, that pruning in the fall could work. Does it really matter when these 'work horse' roses are pruned, fall or spring? Well, it doesn't appear to be so.

The advantages to pruning in the fall are many: the ground is firmer for walking, soil compaction is reduced; roses bloom as early as possible, adding a couple more weeks of bloom for the year, since previously, when pruning was done in spring, often the bushes had already well broken dormancy and given a couple weeks of growth that was pruned away, making the bush start over again thereby delaying the first flush.

What do you think of my fall pruning program?

Comments (5)

  • 14 years ago

    I always prune my hardy old european OGRs (Gallicas, albas, mosses, etc) as well as rugosas and hardy shrubs in December. I do it for decades. It works for me in my climate.
    You can't do it for roses that are easy fooled by warm spells (HTs, chinas, Teas, etc), but hardy roses react more on a day length, I think, than temperature. So they don't start growing after pruning even during warm spells.

    I doubt fall pruning will work in areas where even hardy roses get a lot of winter dieback. In my past when I lived in colder zone I would not try it. But is certainly workd great in zone 6-7 climates.
    Olga

  • 14 years ago

    If it works, it works. Every garden is different. My Mom & Dad's old neighbors pruned their roses the first of August every year for decades. It worked for them. If it works for you, why not?

  • 14 years ago

    As hoovb said, "why not?" It works for you, does what you need/want when you need/want. I love you've pushed the envelope, defying "conventional wisdom" and proven it can work. Hopefully, it will help dispel the fear people have about roses and help get them back to being garden staples instead of "luxuries". What's not to like? Kim

  • 14 years ago

    I'm a great supporter of do what works for you! I don't fall prune myself because I found when I did that I still had to prune off more winter die back in the spring anyway and ended up with nothing but stubs to start the season with. By leaving them long and only cutting back in the spring to where the die back is I've found I have bigger roses to begin with. And I like them tall!

  • 14 years ago

    I prune whenever I have secateurs to hand - any time of year. Conversely, if I never pruned at all, it would not really be a disaster - the rose prunes itself through dieback, animal munching and so on. So what if a bit of late growth gets frosted. Admittedly, I am in temperate England but of all the problems with plants, pruning has been my least worry. Unlike tempermental cherries, nectarines and so on which are liable to get nasty infections such as silverleaf or even fireblight if pruned during winter dormancy, roses are much, much tougher - I have never even come close to killing off a rose through dodgy pruning. Well done, like many others have said, if it works for you, then go for it.