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Regards,

Jack

Thank's Jack. :))

Wow! That peach shaded seedling #4's a doozy. I haven't been aware of any that shade and would definitely try it should it prove 'true'.

Dumb question but here goes....Daturas bloom upward and Brugs bloom downward????

jardinerafloridana, correct about the flower positions.
Also, the only 'dumb' question is the one you don't ask.

Hello again,

I was trying to get some of these posted earlier - but I've literally got a huge mess going with these. There are many variations in these 3rd generation seedlings, most of which are the usual triple yellows, whites and purples with variations in their shapes and shades. The following that are posted are so far some of my favorites and amazling enough, most come from last years #s 10 and 11. Eventually I hope to get a lot more posted as I sill have hundreds of pics to go through. I've also still got many that haven't flowered yet (many from the original batch). Anyway - enjoy !
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Regards,

Jack

You already know I like them all Jack.

Hi again, and again RA thank you for your interest!

A few more...

Here are a few more. I have also been dismayed to find out that all of the really different patterns are producing absolutely NO pollen. The anthers are there but totally devoid of any powder. I've been noticing this over the last couple of months, finally I was able to check a few from preopening to being done, 2-3 times a day over a 2-3 day period - no pollen. I'm really amazed. However, most are producing nice seed pods.
Whatever the 4th gen will look like will not be of my involvement.
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There will be more,

Jack

You already know my opinion.
How strange and disappointing about the pollen Jack.

Hi RA,

I check just about everyday and there is NO pollen.

Jack

Bummer.

Jack, are you crossing just the metel ones??

Fascinating,Jack. What's the latest? How did Generation 4
turn out? Love how some of these look i.e. shape as well as color combos. Please tell us some more. Gloria

Jack

I've GOT to 'bump' this thread! Fascinating! Thanks for sharing these great pics! And obviously you've put a great amount of your time into the wonderful world of dats! Thanks!

Mike

Those pix are incredible. I have only raised a couple of datura. Do the triples and doubles have fragrance like the wild white one?

Here are this years pics so far. Some of these were posted last year and most of these pics show last years flower (cuttings taken and rooted) and this years flower that came from the cutting. Amazingly, most are different and a lot of this years flowers have reverted to be close or the same as the flower that developed from the original seeds. It appears as though I will never get any consistency from these. So far the seeds taken last year have not produced anything that has not been seen before. In anycase - Enjoy!!

Jack
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Jack

Amazing, as usual, Jack. Thanks for sharing the results of your hybridizing, the successes, and otherwise!

That variegated Double Yellow is so cool!! Wow! Have you gotten seed to come true from this one or is those one from this year? Beautiful to see!
It will be interesting to see if the variegation held/holds with the offspring. Good luck!

Brenda B

I alo really like the variegated one.
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Some are turning out to be much more stable year to year and as cuttings than others it seems.
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all seem pretty stable and passing it on in their seeds for you. As for a favourite. I can't decide LOL! It sure shows all the hard work you are doing and documenting Jack.

Wow, very nice! I also especially like the var dbl yellow. She's a real beauty!!

Hi and thank you all,

gottahost - haven't had this before this year. I had a varigated Inoxia years ago, but all the seeds produced regular plants. More than likely the seeds from this one will also produce plain plants also.

RA - you may be right, there are so many to try to keep track of it hard to see the forest anymore.

Thanks again,

Jack

A couple more - big differences!

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Jack

This project continues and am currently waiting for last years seeds that have germinated to flower. I took a detour last fall and tried crossing Inoxias into Metels and the reverse.

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It looks as though it was a successful crossing. The above time lapse came from a metel pod with inoxia pollen. I don't have a still pic for now but there are 2 more buds coming and will post them soon. What you can't really see is that the outside of the flower has a pale band of lavender and the inside is pure white. This plant has more inoxia traits than metel. I planted over 400 seeds in January from the crosses and so far 8 have popped, 2 in the last week. Will update as this project moves forward.

Clicking the above pic doesn't seem to work. Try this one.

Here is a link that might be useful: datmov

Hi Jack, will be watching as you post more pics.

Hi RA!

Miss you at the other places. Hope all is well with you.

Oh, I didn't realize the yellow one was variegated until I clicked on the pic. Its beautiful! Looks like a brug, lol. I really love your purple and yellow ones too. They are so cool looking. All your double and triple have such strong separation in the skirts they look like baby brugs too. Very excellent work. I can't wait til some are available to try.

Hi F4F - It WAS beautiful, wasn't able to get through the winter and it didn't produce any seed pods last fall, so that one is lost to the ages.

The 2nd flower opened last night, it is a large flower about 6" across and about 8" tall. The inside has the traits of its metel mother and the ouside has the traits of an inoxia. You can see the faint lavender around the out side and on the inner petals. As soon as I get some metels to open I'll start crossing this with them. There are 2 more crosses that should be opening soon that so far look mostly metel even though the pod was inoxia.

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I love, love your pictures. Thanks a lot

WOW!!! Amazing what you have produced! Some just make my jaw drop! Question, what about fragrance? Is it the same with each cross?

What do you do with them all in the Fall?

Happy gardening :-)

aker

Some new variations from this year. Am working on getting them into a matrix to show the originals and their decendants. Will also be releasing seeds in some manner soon.

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Jack

Jack

Great looking Dats! Love the color variations! Thanks for sharing such great pics! :)

Mike

Stunning!!!!! They are all so beautiful!!!!
Thanks for the pics
Cassie

Thanks Mike and Cassie!
Are you able to click and get larger pics? I get an error on them from Photobucket.

Regards,
Jack

I get the same error message when I click on the images Jack :((

Hi RA!
Awfully nice to hear from you!
Seems like the problem is in the subdir. at photobucket. I'm going to move them to a new dir. and retry.
Thanks,
Jack

Now you can go into your PB account and change settings so that the thumbnail codes show right under the images along with all the other codes Jack.

Go to....
Account settings>in the section called 'Album settings' ....below the heading 'Images Link Back To Album' click the blue words 'Link options' and on the next screen turn on the boxes to show the thumbnails AND tick 'always', then click 'save' and those links will now show up under each image rather than you having to tick each box and then scroll to the bottom of the page like we used to have to do for the thumbmail codes.

I believe also, for us to see the larger images when we click the thumbnails you have to have your setting on 'public'.

Thanks RA,
Did that, didn't change anything! All my past thumbs are ok and the movie and the other 2 pics are in the same album on PB -puzzling! I'll keep putzing with it.

Jack

Wow great looking datura! you have inspired me to give them another shot. I shovel pruned mine last fall after a very lackluster season (not really the plant's fault) I think I will dig out some seeds and give them another try in 2010

Thanks again

Frances

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Seems to be working for me Jack, remember it is the html code you want, not the img code.

Frances - thank you, but as RA says - so far these are unique!

Hi again RA
I know, but they just wont expand.
Trying again!
They expand when I look at them at the first preview of the post. Then If I preview again, I get the error. I've cut them out of this post to save space here.

Puzzling!,
Jack

Thank you Ruth Ann, waving to you in Ont, I hope the winter has not been too unkind! (Toronto is my Home town)

Jack
Your flowers are lovely, the creamy - purple combination is so striking! I will look forward to buying some seed if you ever make them available! I have a TBIris with nearly identical colouration.

In the mean time I think I will look for some yellows and purples! (I have only had white so far, you have inspired me to try monre!

Have a great evening

Frances

Hi Frances,
Getting them organized is proving difficult for an old man.
Camera assigns a #, SD card when put in the PC gives them another #, and Kodak "share" sw gives them yet another #. Delete a pic in the camera and everything shifts - oh my!
Soon I hope
Regards,
Jack

Jack

Click the link beolw to see the reason I was so struck by your lovely colour combinations;

This is a NOID Iris that lives in my yard, the colour similarity is really astonishing to me!

Have a wonderful day, flowers and gardening is best when it is a labour of love! everything else is just too much work (for this OLD LADY) anyway!

Frances

Here is a link that might be useful: Goldish with purple marking

These beautiful hybridized seeds are now for sale, I saw them advertised in the BGI classified section in the following link. I know I will be trying a few, it is so much fun to be in on the ground floor of trying new cultivars.

Here is a link that might be useful: New Datura cultivar seeds

Hi Frances - Wow - the similarities in color and pattern are amazing! Really is a beautiful Iris,

Hi RA and thanks!

Jack

First flower from 2009 seeds from the Inoxia/Metel cross.

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More buds to open and will update as they occur.

Regards,

Jack