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18 years ago

This was a leftover from a landscape job I did around 6 years ago. Since then, it has multiplied substantially to where I have hundreds of them in the garden.

Here are two pictures, one with a bloom. Despite the variety of colors, they are all from the same plant.

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Comments (9)

  • 18 years ago

    I am sure it is Neo olens Vulcan, or if you like the new name, Marie.

    Japie

    Here is a link that might be useful: Neo Marie

  • 18 years ago

    I don't know about that Japie. It looks like the leaves are much longer and floppy on Marie/Vulcan than on mine.

  • 18 years ago

    Sorry Japie, I'm going to overrule you here. It's Neo. '696'. We've got oodles of this in Hawaii and it is one of the most sun-tolerant Neos around, great for landscaping (and hybridizing!).

    It's supposedly a cv. of olens too, but to me it's always looked closer to camorimiana. As you say, fawnridge, the leaves are longer, the spots are finer and the stolons longer than Vulcan/Marie.

  • 18 years ago

    I wanted to add 696 as a back-up, Lisa, but when I looked at my 2 plants side by side, it looked much more like Marie. And now I must add quickly, for the past couple of months, I had that gnawing feeling that the lables on my plants might have been swithed. Either when I unpacked them or when they were packed - they came in the same box.

  • 18 years ago

    Here's a picture of '696':

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    This looks more like mine, except I've got more red. More sun perhaps?

  • 18 years ago

    Hmmmm....... that Tropiflora picture doesn't look like our 696, the leaves are too short! 696 will vary in size and shape, becoming much more compact in full sun, but it's also intensely brick red under those conditions so that picture is confusing to me. The shape looks more olens.

    Maybe it's time to send a plant in to Harry and make sure we're all on the same page. If the clone in Hawaii was mislabled it would have had to have happened years ago because it's well-known and widely grown here and has been for at least 30 years. Tropiflora is not infallible, they make mistakes too. On the other hand, N. Marnier-Lapostolle is another extremely common old-time plant here, but everybody still calls it zonata (even though I have told them *repeatedly* that it's not)! Ah well, old habits die hard.

    I probably shouldn't tell you that I did a cross of olens x 696, thereby further muddying the waters..... ;-)

  • 18 years ago

    How big across does "696" get?
    Thanks,
    -Jmcat

  • 18 years ago

    I'll add to the confusion. The plant I have labeled as Neo. olens var. vulkan looks like the plant that fawnridge posted. My '696' looks like the Tropiflora photo, though my plant gets to be about 9 inches across. The plant in the Tropiflora photo looks to be about 5-6" in diameter. It looks like it was an offshoot that bloomed a bit precociously. The plants in the background appear more typical.
    Paul

  • 18 years ago

    Hoo boy..... I thought this would be an easy one, but it looks like name confusion reigns! Unfortunately I don't have any typical-looking 696 to photograph at the moment. All of mine are out under the trees in deep shade where they are much more stretched out, at least 1 foot across. In full sun they'd be somewhere between 6 and 8". Just by the size of the flower that Tropiflora one looks like maybe 4" across to me.

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