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ID help please - crassula; cotyledon ..?

15 years ago

Hi, folks! I wonder if anyone can help with an ID or at least an opinion. My county Extension agent is stumped, too. I found this plant on the ground in a corner at a plant sale, a man working the fair brought it from home to see if anyone wanted to buy it. This plant matches an image I've had in my mind for years, a 'jade' with thinner more woody stems vs. fleshy, and truly silver leaves more flat than fleshy. I was thrilled to find it!

Now to decide what it is. No images from a google search for 'crassula [arborescens] argentea' looked close. Now we wonder whether it might be a cotyledon.

I still retain the 'mother' plant that was so riddled with (dead, at least) scale when I bought, and I started several cuttings right away.

(It's been a long time since I've been on the gardenweb forums, so have pics ready but they're not attached yet...)

Your thoughts are appreciated! Lisa

Comments (12)

  • 15 years ago

    Lisa,

    Can you post a picture? We could tell, almost if not up to the trinomial (Crassula ovata variegata), tell you what you have, but a picture is best.

    It could be a Cotyledon. It could be a Kalanchoe. It could be a Senecio.

    Has it flowered for you?

  • 15 years ago

    Hi cactusmcharris - thank you for your response! I tried posting this follow-up with a link to the Cacti gallery site, where I posted the pic. I'll see if it works this time... :) Lisa

    Here is a link that might be useful: photo of the cuttings

  • 15 years ago

    Lisa,

    That worked (it took me to the post with the link). I'd guess it was a very green Kalanchoe orgyalis. I'd say, AWAD, that it's a Kalanchoe, but I've never seen a K.orgyalis so green, unless it's been away from sun for some time. It could be another Kalanchoe species.

    Usually they're this colour when exposed to sun:

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    (mind you, that one was outside and in lots of sun).

    My second guess would be a form of Kalanchoe bracteata, but I just don't know for sure.

  • 15 years ago

    Here's New Lisa's plant - I looked at it a second time and am even more convinced it's K. orgyalis, but all this snow we're getting could have blinded me....

    Here is a link that might be useful:

  • 15 years ago

    Thank you, cactusmcharris! That would be so - cool, we'll look into the kalanchoe genus... I posted a pic of the mother plant (see link), which may help too. When I let the cuttings heel (heal?) before planting, they grow aerial roots or little threads, whatever those are, which still had me thinking 'crassula.' NOW I'm all motivated to make some of the babies flower, so we can know more!

    :) Lisa

    Here is a link that might be useful: pic of the 'mother' plant

  • 15 years ago

    I would say it looks like Kalanchoe bracteata var. glabra or Kalanchoe hildebrandtii. Flowers would help with ID.

  • 15 years ago

    It does look very much like my K. bracteata.
    Mine's just a wee thing, though....


    Josh

  • 15 years ago

    Lisa,

    What you're describing as aerial roots are also known as adventitious roots, and they're a common occurrence in the Crassulaceae family. There are Old World Crassulaceae genera, of which Kalanchoe is a member (and Crassula, too), and also New World Crassulaceae, such as Echeveria.

    Yes, let the cuttings heal (callous), and they'll be ready for rooting.

    Here's a picture of Kalanchoe bracteata v. (variety) bracteata.

    {{gwi:476791}}

    I think I had another variety back in the day, but I don't really remember what it was. Thanks to Rosemarie and Josh, we know what your plant is.

  • 15 years ago

    Josh, Rosemarie, Cactusmcharris, thanks to you for all the great info (and pictures!). This has just made my day. It's even a lot of fun looking at what it 'may be' but it's not... but of course when you see the right thing, it's a blast - and Kalanchoe bracteata is definitely the right thing!! ~MC~ also had that as his second guess last night before seeing the pics, not too shabby. ;)

    The only part that makes me sad is how many years I went without having something I like this much... I don't spend enough time looking around online and whetting the ol' appetite. I'll work very hard to never do that again. :)

    I take it that all of you have your own 'K.b.,' or know where to get it, but if not let me know.

    thank you! Lisa

  • 15 years ago

    Hey, sure thing ;)
    Rosemarie and Jeffrey did all the leg-work...
    I just happen to be lucky enough to grow the K. orgyalis and K. bracteata (in the same pot, even).
    Cool plant!


    Josh

  • 15 years ago

    Lisa,

    I have the K.b. as pictured, as well as the K.o. pictured, but I don't have that one that you have...I'd be happy to send you some postage for some cuttings. If you want to, let me know via email (click on my page next to my name and there will be a 'send an email' link). If you want some of my K.o. and K.b. you're welcome to them - you'll just have to wait until later this month when I'm in the States and can send them to you more easily.

    Thanks very much for the offer!

  • 15 years ago

    jeff or josh I think the second name Kalanchoe Hidlebrandtii may be the white flowered plant what ever is correct. (glabra may be the red form, the leaves are the size of a tablespoon and cupped up. The new leaves start out rust/mine are red and gradually change to green. Having woody up right stems. margin entire and not notched. I have a forms of this plant given to me by the Huntington Gardens. One will have white flowers the other red. It make a shrub of about 3-4 ft for me in a large glazed pot getting filtered western sun. K ebrcteata is very similar with many syn. named attached. It does not give me the color o the flower,
    sorry I don't have the time to research this thorougly. Norma

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