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17 years ago

I got all of these last summer at Walmart in a mixed container (6 plants to a package). They were all growing in 2 pots all winter, and I just rearranged them since some were too big, and others weren't...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee161/SophisticatedGeek/cactuses.jpg

The one on the bottom right got so big it was crowding the jade plant so I put it by itself. The jade plant keeps growing but leaves fall off REALLY easily. I put some of the leaves in a separate pot and they rooted but nothing else has happened with them... It was really crowded by the one on the bottom right, so I'm thinking that might be part of why the bottom leaves all fell off. The little one with with the jade is alive, but looking at the roots, they haven't grown at all. They're still sorta in the shape of the tiny pot it came in. The little one with the aloe has doubled in size. The aloe looks all weird... its way too tall looking but I don't know if thats normal? and theres two mini plant off of them.

So, basically my questions are:

Why might the aloe be so tall? its that a light issue? and what do I do with the little plants beside it?

My jade plants leaves are fat and round, and the pictures I've seen on the net they're more flat. Is that too much water? Might that be why they're falling off? (though I read there could be a lot of reason for that). Also, will the leaves that rooted eventually grow into plants?

How do I find out about the little round ones? The one is ok I think, but the other one isn't growing.

And the big one, I assume its doing great since its growing so well?

Also, thats only 5 plants, not 6... one died... :)

Comments (9)

  • 17 years ago

    There is too much to comment on here, so I will leave much of it to others. First, the plant pots are way too big for the plants. Oversized pots encourage overwatering which leads to rot. Second, the soil is wrong for cacti and succulents, you want a fast draining mix that doesn't retain water. And your 'jade' is not a jade, it is something else, though I don't know the name...

    Christopher

  • 17 years ago

    I agree, that's not a Jade.

    I recognize the cactus on the bottom right as Mammillaria elongata, maybe ssp. elongata.

    As Christopher commented, the pots are too large for the size of the plants, and the soil is too water-retentive (by the looks of it).

    Josh

  • 17 years ago

    Why that Aloe is so tall is two fold: it's a variety (I believe) that grows tall to begin with, but also, it's stretching to reach the light, it needs lots more light.

    I agree w/ the other two posters abt the pots being too large & the mix too peaty & water retentive. But it IS good to see the clay pots for these.

    I had trouble seeing the pic, if someone could pls. attach it directly, that'd be helpful, thanks.

  • 17 years ago

    The Aloe is so tall because it is desperate for light. Growing succulents as far north as you are is very challenging since you are unable to provide sufficient natural light during the winter. There is nothing you can really do to "fix" the plants. If you start providing adequate light (through the use of artificial lighting) the top will revert to the correct form, but the bottom will always remain stretched and leggy. Believe it or not, that is probably Aloe juvenna...

    The plant you call a Jade is more likely a Pachyphytum species. Hard to tell which though.

    All of the plants would be better of in small, individual containers. That way you can monitor each one on its own, and provide the correct amount of water.

    You really should try to repot them into a suitable soil. You can search around, but the basic idea would be to add lots and lots of drainage material to your current soil. A good recipe would be two parts drainage material (pumice, perlite, pea gravel), one part potting soil. Finding a peat free soil to start with will probably be impossible in Idaho, so you are probably stuck with it.

    As to the cacti, I can't offer much help as I don;t grow them. However, they too are in need of way more light than you are currently providing. Honestly, without more light, all of these plants will continue to stretch and reach for light, making them even leggier. They will also be more prone to disease and rot if you can't provide them with more light. If you can move them into the sun, that would be best, but do it slowly over the course of a few weeks so you don't sunburn the plants.

    Here ya go PG:
    BaptistKitty's Plants

  • 17 years ago

    maybe this is better...
    what type of aloe is that???

    Here is a link that might be useful: {{gwi:534270}}

  • 17 years ago

    Being a fellow northerner with a lot of cacti and succulents (in my case several hundred), I would say that you will need to do one of a couple of things to keep your plants healthy.

    1) Appropriate sun in the summer season is a must, i.e. half a day or more outside. Otherwise your plants will eventually all get leggy. Your plants will probably need some working up to sun after being inside all winter (even though they are desert plants, they can be sunburned in the spring just as you can). This will keep their growth nice and tight.

    2) Avoid the trap of a dark but warm house during the winters. This is why your Aloe (a juvenna, I think) is so tall - it was warm enough for it to try to grow but without enough light. I have two solutions for this that I use. First, you could use supplimental lights, which are kept quite close to the plant (i.e. a few inches). Eventually the top of your Aloe might grow into an appropriate shape and you might be able to cut the new growth off and root it separately. The second strategy is to keep the plants cool enough during the winter that they don't try to grow very much. I keep my aloes in my basement under a shop light where it is about 55 degrees during the winter. This has been quite successful in preventing leggy growth.

    Looking back, it appears I just repeated some of the material joscience posted. I agree with what jo suggests, with the added comment that because of your geographic location you will have to take extra steps to keep your plants healthy. Unfortunately, a nice windowsill won't quite do it, unlike in some areas. It has taken me several years to work out which succulents can survive winters here under which conditions. Jo, aren't you in California?

    By the way, is the little cactus in the top a Notocactus leninghausii?

  • 17 years ago

    Ok lets see....

    Light: I did finally get a plant light and they and a couple other plants seem to have done a lot better with it.

    Soil: I know it wasn't right, but I had to wait for spring to be able to buy anything other than what I had which was just regular potting soil... the stores finally have stuff in now but I just haven't gotten there yet

    Pot Size: I had no idea those would be too big... though I really have no idea how to know what size to choose lol I do let them dry out well before I water them though. My mini roses are always drying out too much because of that. I assumed it wouldn't matter with these though.

    Aloe: should I remove the two little plants coming off of it?

    I looked up pachyphytum and based on pictures it looks most like pachyphytum oviferum which means nothing to me but might mean something to you all.

    And putting the plants outside: because of how far north I am, the days we have sun are usually cold (clouds hold in the heat). I'm not sure how cold they could handle... like its finally into the low 50's here which is warm for us, but I don't know if thats too cold for them.

  • 17 years ago

    I think the main problem with pot size is the likelihood of soil retaining water and rotting your plants. I guess theoretically you could water very rarely and keep them mostly dry, but that still wouldn't be quite right. Better draining is always better with succulents.

    It's way too early to put plants outside in my neck of the woods, and thus probably also in Idaho. Depending on what elevation you are, I'm guessing sometime in May is right for you. If you're way up in the mountains, it might be June, and I'd have a hard time figuring out how you could successfully grow succulents without more than two months outside in the summer. Mine go out variously between late April and mid-May, depending on the season and the plants. However, I'm at low elevation.

  • 17 years ago

    Heres how to make your potting soil work for you. Take all of the plants out of the pots soil and everything. Fill two of the pots with perlite or pumice and the third with your mix. Then mix all of the soil together and repot. I would pot the succulents together and the cacti together. The smaller cactus should be in 3" pots max.