No, you are not crazy. Don't ya just love the adventures of the variegated ones?

Karma, how often does it happen? I thought the only was to ensure another plant exactly the same as the mother was to propagate by cuttings? Any ideas why this happens? Cuttings having to deal with stress maybe?
I just took some pics..second one is a little blurry. There are 3 Maya cuttings in this pot, all growing very nicely. I am having to remove leaves about 3x a week, and am very happy with them. Do you think maybe by any chance, lol, they may regain their variegation?

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I had several Peaches & Cream cuttings. A couple dried out and defoliated after they had already rooted and been growing for a while. They all survived but one has continued to put out solid green foliage. Maybe I'll stress it again and see if it will revert to the variegated form.

I've been reading past posts about this, and it seems once it reverts, that's it..it never comes back.

KHT, my buddy....my pal....I am not going to let you get away with that vague answer, LOL! So what I get from that is that, yes, they will revert. But what else do you know? I have the same questions as Daniella.

The "why"? Not sure that it could be stress because mine didn't go thru the mail. And they havn't been stressed here at all I don't think. There were no sports of any kind on the mother plant when I cut and positively no solid green leaves.

Daniella, I'm by far no expert but I would say not to toss them... Who knows what might happen. Don't the new variegated brugs usually come from sports of non-variegateds?

Michelle, I would not even think of tossing them! I am fine with those 2 not being variegated..who knows, maybe we could get some cool sports?

What about light? Is it possible that the low winter light is causing it to put out solid leaves and that when they can go back out in the spring, the new growth will again be variagated?

neonposey, no to your question and light has nothing to do with it. I am in hopes some of the experts will chime in.
Vague answer, is what I can offer due to pain! Just track the solid one, please.

Karma, I also asked Eddie about it last nite and he told me the same thing that you just did. I had never heard of this happening before. You learn something every day! He also said that now that they have turned solid, they will remain solid. What a strange thing to have happen.

wildflower , lol lol
Is this possible or an I losing it?

variegated plants often send up sports . most of mine tend to be albino and will not make it.

i just received a sport from up north . this sport was collected from maya. it looks allot like axel rose , will plant this coming year and see what happens .

Eddie, I thought sports were new babies sent up out of the base?
These are cuttings off the Michelle's mother plant, which was variegated. Out of my 3 cuttings, only one has the variegation.

I wonder, are we more likely to get sports off of these reverted Maya's?

I agree with it not being the light..my 3 cuttings are all together in one pot, and the pot is under grow lights, yet I still turn it 1/3 every other day. Since they are all in the same pot, they all get the same amount of water, same temp, etc..Really is strange how 2 reverted and one kept the var.

If I get a cool sport that's unlike others off of either of these reverts, I am going to name it 'Michella'. :p
Hey I can hope, lol.

most of my sports do emerge from the base . but , sports can happen ,in any area of the plant . sunsport started half way up the plant, it was near the Y. suzy's sport started at the base of the plant. i have seen solid white sports form on jamie above the Y and at ground level . one never knows where a mutation can start .
i do think your solid green leaved brugs will stay that way , but with mutations like this one , its hard to tell . i have seen solid green sports start growing , only to return to their variegated state . i generally remove any solid green stems , keeping the variegation stronger .

i do not think you will be allowed to name the solid green leaved plants . if it's similar to the original sport of maya, mayan magic , i do not think you can register it . i'm not even sure why this name (mayan magic) was allowed to be registered . if a variegated plant reverts to a solid green plant ,i think its probably the same as the original plant , so why a new name?
those of you with mayan magic, how about posting photos for comparison?

I agree, I don't think when a plant reverts it should be given a new name, for I would think it IS the original.
I just meant if I got some kind of weird cool new one with dif variegation growing from the base as these grow on and get older. If a var baby came up that was just like the Maya leaves should be, that shouldn't be named either, for it is Maya. I am confusing myself, lol. I will keep an eye on the solids and see what happens..and if anything cool happens, you know I will be announcing it on here.
I don't think they will go back to being variegated, just as other variegated plants which completely revert do not go back. True once in awhile you may get a reverted branch, and you should trim it off to stop more solids from growing. Sometimes though, there is just no stopping it. I have had variegated plants in my garden which die down in the winter, only to come up in spring completely reverted and stay that way. Guess it may have been from a graft and since it grew back from the roots it was gone?
That is cool how you got sports so high up on plants..I didn't know that was possible. Learn something new every day :)
Have you ever tried grafting the albinos with a solid?
I too would like to see pix for comparison..

This what I was told.. Compliments of Bettydee..
Kylie

Quoted:
Some host cultivars repeatedly produce the same sport in various parts of the world and/or at different times, in which case the sport is regarded as the same cultivar even though it has arisen repeatedly. An example is the variegated Brugmansia ÂMayaÂ, which repeatedly produces sport branches with a consistently different variegation pattern and color (which has not yet been named in this case).

From angelstrumpets-datura.co.uk

It seems that Mayan genetics may be unstable enough to either revert or produce a different variegation. Axelrose is a sport from Maya.
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As Starlight suggests, try removing the greenshoots to see if other variegated shoots form. There may be dormant buds on the cuttings so be patient with the process before you toss. Unless you have lots of cuttings to spare, then you can toss and start again. You might keep one on just out of curiosity  to see what you end up. Maybe once the plant makes outside, any green on green variegation may appear.

eddiedewayne, the name game is very touchy to some. Just look at all the reverse variegated ones that appear to be the same and how many reverse variegated names are we seeing now? Whom is really watching the chicken coup? I would like to hear more on the one; eddies's quote "i have seen solid green sports start growing , only to return to their variegated state . i generally remove any solid green stems , keeping the variegation stronger."

This is why I asked that they track the solid green one to see if it would revert back. We have two that we are tracking and no reverting and no sports on either. We are probably going to cull them after growing a couple years.

I have been growing and tracking variegations now for 12 years and the stuff we are seeing, well this is one for discussion. This is a great question! One shouldn't compare this to a hosta and has to be studied just on it's own. I am a strong believer that our B. Shorty's maybe a variegation/tissue culture off Maya that has produced many different variegations and from what I have been told to name each sport many cause a problem. Again I will state B. Shorty's has some differences from B. Maya so we don't know for sure. But these are sports and can create some excitement over a different variegation pattern. Our TNN's reverse variegated has surprised us with 4 types of sports in the past year. So there is more research that needs to be done?

I would keep the green trimmed back as well. This happens with some of my other variegated stuff as well...for example, Pink Princess Philodendron will start putting out some less variegated or dark greenish growth, so I cut that back because since it isn't variegated it grows at a faster pace and more vigorously thus taking over the plant.

wow..thank you very much for that Kylie. Thank you too Karma.
Where is Michelle? lol!
Maya sure is an interesting chick. I don't plan on removing the leaves on the solid ones, I am going to leave them and see what they do. I haven't been into brugs long enough that I can say I'm going to cull anything.. unless it's sick. I am sure I will have these for as long as they live for me. I have never thrown away a plant just because it didnt perform perfectly to my expectations, and I don't think I ever will. I love all my plants too much..like I said, till death do us part, lol.
I'll keep all updated on what these do, as I am sure Michelle will.
And an adventure begins....

Thank you everybody for all the info! Sorry...I had a function to attend this morning and just now made it back and jumped straight on here to see what was happening.

I have been brutal this year with plants that weren't perforing like they were supposed to... I've sent A LOT of stuff to the compost pile. But I'll hold onto my 2 green Maya's for a little while and see what they do. Suzie, I had kinda been hoping too that it might be a "light thing" and that the variegation would return in the spring... And who knows, it may surprise one of us and do just that! Or hopefully at least put out some variegated branches. I've seen lots of strange stuff with Maya. KHT, remember the albino shoot that I actually got to root? I had roots coming out the bottom of the gallon pot and that thing lived for several months (3 or 4 I believe). Tried it again this year with another albino shoot and it did put on some roots but lived for less than a month.

Oh Daniella, I really really like the name Michella for a brug!

I think it has something to do with the speed it is growing. The faster it grows such as when you repeatedly keep pinching off a stem that is trying to grow (or it is damaged or stressed in some other way) sometimes makes them mutate (or chemicals such as colchisine). There was some talk about it being partly genetic in some plants as it happens over & over in the same crosses with no apparent outside influence (like Maya). Hard to tell what it is mutating to or back into (do they do DNA tests on plants?).

Linda

They do do DNA testing on plants but mostly from a research prospective..I know Texas A&M does alot of testing to develope plants that are tolerant of our surroundings.. Hot and Dry!!! They have some Beauties BTW!!!