a new one for me last year was Wynne's Delta Frank. Mid season bloomer about 4 1/2 ft tall. The first couple of blooms were terrible. About the time I was good and disappointed they began to improve. By showtime ( 1st week sept) they were really hitting there stride. Did not win the show but garnered a nice blue ribbon. If you want a big one that stands out in your garden give this one a try. Steve S