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Outside today plotting in the garden.

15 years ago

Not plotting on adding any daylilies. In fact I have to dig out two clumps of daylilies in order to get my planting plan done. So I wanted to add Oriental Lilies to the left front yard again since I had them out there but had to dig them up due to the belgium block mini terraces put in last year. I found the bulbs to be in such bad shape that I just tossed them instead of trying to replant. I am sure I had them planted too deeply. At any rate I have been looking at the layout and decided that the far left corner, near the round rose planters is the best place for the wanted Oriental lily bulbs. So the two daylilies I stuck in there last year will have to move, no big deal.

I had been looking at the better lily sellers but didn't find what I wanted so went back to K. Van Bourgondien were I had gotten the original batch.

I ordered the mix oriental lily collection (25 bulbs) and then also 5 each of Dizzy, Muscadet and Tiger Edition and they will all go together.

Another reason for buying there was that I needed to order there anyway as I just ordered 200 or the mixed Glamini Gladiolas. I just love those. Didn't have many last year due to redoing the top back yard garden. The colors on them are striking vivid tones and they don't grow very tall, only about 2 feet. Not like the too tall regular glads. In fact I only plant the Glamini and no regular glads any more since I discoved the Glamini. I don't know of any other place sells them but K. Van Bourgondien.

I needed the Glamini to plant in various spots I have in mind but the real reason is I need to do something to add bloom to the two new Tall Bearded Iris beds I plant in TB iris last summer. I tried some new (to me) vendors to order the TB iris and didn't get most of them from Scheiners as I had the year before. The result is that my rhizomes have barely begone to grow, from two vendors used to fill out the new bed. Plus those two made up the bulk of my TB Iris ordered last year. So I will be shocked if any of those blooms this spring.

Thinking on the fact that I will have no bloom there this year got me steamed and I knew I had to do something while I wait for my iris to grow. So I decided if I could not have spring iris bloom there this year, I would at least have something lovely this summer. So I am going to plant the Glamini Glads between those TB iris plants.

So much for my plotting. Will have lots of summer bulbs to plant.

Comments (27)

  • 15 years ago

    Wow, that is a great plan. I love the oriental lilies, and it was your pics, that got me to plant more. They fit in so well with the daylilies. The Glamini are a good idea too, as the typical glads, are just too tall, unless you use them for a cutting garden. I have planted the tall ones,and every year I have some that return. I know what you mean about wanting continuous bloom in the garden.
    cindy

  • 15 years ago

    I only stuck those two daylilies in the corner there last year because they were leftover after the moving of the daylilies in the relocation gardens outfront that had to move because of the belgium block mini terraces. Even as I was putting them in the corner last year I was thinking that I really didn't want daylilies right there, I would rather have lilies. But since I didn't have lilies to plant right then but did need to do something with the two clumps of daylilies, I just stuck them there.

    I had a big stand of those oriental lilies out front there for afew years and they really looked so good there in back of the daylilies. Sometimes the flowers would just sort of mix together, I have old pictures like that.

  • 15 years ago

    Sounds great. I think I have some of the glamini glads, if they made it through this winter. They are really nifty looking, I was thinking of putting in some more if I come across them locally.

  • 15 years ago

    Well, they come thru the winter here so I expect that the Glads would come back for you also. Not that glads are supoposed to come back here with our winters if you don't lift them but most of mine do. I plant them somewhat deeper than they say. I think its 3 inches they recommend for the Glamini glads but I put mine deeper so they come back. Plus they tend not to flop if they are not planted as shallow. They are a really great source of stunning summer color.

  • 15 years ago

    Ah yes, it has to be spring...Rita is moving things. I am going to get a few of those Silk Road Lilies and maybe a couple of others.

    Your lilies are what inspired me to plant some. I had a few, but very few before you started posting pics.
    kay

  • 15 years ago

    Hey, it is spring and I only moved 5 shrubs and an entire row of daylilies so far. Not like I do some years when I go just crazy moving things LOL! I have some hostas and ferns to move after they come up (still not showing new growth) and then of course some other daylilies to move. I have been moving some of my daylilies around each spring as long as I have had daylilies.

    I just need a stand of a nice mix of the common oriental lilies out there in front again. Just can't not have them because I liked them too much to do without. I do love the various lily blooms in the summer and there are so many lovely types. In fact some of my lilies are sticking their noses out of the ground now already this spring.

  • 15 years ago

    Uh huh, and it is very early yet too. Moving is part of gardening, that's my story.

    Lily are a requirement for a nice cottage garden. I agree totally.
    kay

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for the enabling with the bulbs...I'm off to browse. :)

  • 15 years ago

    I am not going to be doing the moving projects like I have been doing in the past. That's my story and I am stickin to it. Seriously, I don't have as much that needs moving this spring and I am very glad. Just as I am very glad that I did not order daylilies for spring and do not have to create more gardenbeds this spring as I have been doing for years around here. Actually, I have no more room to do so even if I had wanted to.

    I actually would like to get rid of afew daylilies. You all know I love my daylilies but I don't want this place to be a daylily garden. I want it to be a garden. I think of it very much as a cottage garden. Just that the daylilies took over in the years of daylily crazies. Last year I realised that I needed to bring back afew of the types of plants I used to have before the garden redos. And really it is only afew daylilies here and there to give me a more balanced garden.

    An example of this is actually what I did late last summer when I moved daylilies out of that area under the front yard honeysuckle trellis so that I could put the spring bulbs in the fall. I intend to overplant that area with zinnias. I had zinnias on the other side and intend to overplant the spring bulbs in zinnias there too for summer color. There are and always will be plenty of daylilies around there. My daylilies will never go away.

  • 15 years ago

    40 lily bulbs is actually not much for me. I love to plant in larger groupings but just don't have the room.

  • 15 years ago

    I put out a bunch of new lilies last year, found several tango asiatic lilies that I really like. I'm not seeing growth on Tango 4 You, but everything else is up & going. That one didn't look too great last year, got them as a potted plant & I think they were probably overwatered before I got them. Lost my citronella lilies too, I think, unless they are being very late. They faded rather fast last year too, I think ground mice or moles got those. No interesting lilies in our local nurseries, I may have to order some. I think fall planted lilies do best for me, but I just can't wait.

  • 15 years ago

    There you go again, mentioning something and of course I have to go check it out and see if I have to have it. lol! I looked up the glaminis and yep, had to have a few. So I almost ordered some and then slammed my computer shut so I wouldn't and went to bed. Then I go in Pike Nursery and they had a mixed bag of them with the colors I love so I got three bags. YES! I think each bag had 25 so if they do great this year I will have to add more now won't I!! Judy

  • 15 years ago

    Rita, how deep do you plant your glads? I want to put them in a bed of DL but I do not want to dig up every year. I want to see if it would work for me. How tall do they get because my DL are tall?

  • 15 years ago

    Nancy- I don't know what happens to bulbs that simply dissapear. I have some Daffodils that are missing. Maybe Squirrels dig them up?

    Judy- Great find. You will love the Glamini Glads, they are just marvelous.

    valtorresz- I know I used to plant my common glads at least six inches so I must have planted the Glaminis 4-5 inches deep. The corms on the Glamini are much smaller than the corms on standard size glads. I am trying to remember the planting instructions but I think they say 3 inches. I could be wrong about that but 4-5 inches is good.

  • 15 years ago

    I parted with a few daylilies (I hear the collective GASP!) last spring/summer. I'm going to narrow it down to the ones that I really MUST have (right now I'm gardening in a 4000 sq lot and that includes the house). Between them and the iris, I'll consistently be dividing something! LOL Plus I want a blended garden. I want to go from spring bulbs to fall mums and such to enjoy the whole gardening season. I did add creeping phlox last year though they aren't looking to hot yet, perennial Salvia, 3 columbines (which are happily returning), a scabisoa, and 2 rudebeckia varities. oh and a low growing sedum too.

  • 15 years ago

    Wish I had seen this post before I bought all the tall
    glads.Guess I will have to stake them.Well we have a type
    of wild bamboo here on the farm.
    Pat

  • 15 years ago

    They also (the tall ones) take up more room. I know that seems odd as Gladiolas are tall and skinny. But still the shorter ones just take up less room. I always buy the mix and the colors are just glowing.

  • 15 years ago

    I planted one bag today and a few of the bulbs were kinda soft so I hope they will be ok. Pike Nursery is a very nice nursery and I know they can't help the bulbs going soft and they will return my money but I am going to keep them all and hope most of them come up. I should have felt of them before buying but I was so excited to see them that I grabbed what was left and checked out with a big dopey grin! lol!!!

  • 15 years ago

    Has anyone purchased the bulbs at home depot? I usually dont do bulbs but was wondering how were they. I want to try planting some glads behind a row of dl.

  • 15 years ago

    I've bought from HD & other box stores. I've had no problems. The bulbs may be bigger at better sources, but these bloom fine. One of those is where I got my glamini. They had more available and I only got 2 colors. After I saw them I was wishing I had bought every kind. Actually, I say glamini, they may have been something else, but they are short & seem to be brighter colors.

  • 15 years ago

    daylilyluver- I parted with afew daylilies myself last year in order to add some other perennials. I too want my garden to lok like a garden, not just a daylily garden. But not to worry, I have plenty of daylilies left that are not going anywhere.

    Judy- I would be worried about the squishy glads. They are supposed to be dry and hard when you plant them. You could still order some at K. Van Bourgondien. I am sure you would love them.

    I used to buy my Gladiolas locally including at Home Depot if I saw them. They were smaller than the mail order ones but they grew and bloomed just fine.

  • 15 years ago

    {{gwi:687857}}

    Here is the corner that needs the two daylilies moved to plant the lily bulbs. It's that green there to the left directly were the bottom of the belgium block mini terraces meets the round rose planter.

  • 15 years ago

    I got a notice from KVB that they shipped my order on Friday. Faster than I expected them to get around to it. Lillies really can be planted most anytime so I will move those daylilies and get those lillies planted as soon as I am able. Still early for planting Gladiolas here.

  • 15 years ago

    Rita: What has been your past experience with Van Bourgondien?
    I ordered bulbs from them and am still waiting for them to come (I'm in no hurry as it is still too wet to plant). I ask because I was reading some reviews today on Watchdog and they seem to get alot of negatives.

    Julia

  • 15 years ago

    They mess things up sometimes. As in the wrong varieties. I always get whatever I ordered. At least its marked correctly. But when they bloom, sometimes its the wrong color. One year I ordered these gorgous bulbs that were all sorts of color patterns that were supposed to grow really tall. The bulbs themselves looked great. But there were not supposed to be any solid white in the mix. When they bloomed they were all a big white open form scented flower. Lovely really, but not what I wanted. I dug them up and kept afew bunches that I planted around the garden and gave the rest away. I still don't know what they are but they bloom every year for me.

    Plus some people have said they get really poor bulbs as in soft or rotting. I have bought literally hundreds and hundreds of bulbs from VB and never had bad bulbs. I have discoved other places that sell fancy lilies so don't buy as much from VB as I used to but I still do buy from them.

    By the way, the lily bulbs (and gladiolas) I ordered did come today and the bulbs are fine and I already planted them.

  • 15 years ago

    Thanks for the info. I'll see how they work out. I saw your post about the glaminis and they are stunning. I'd have to pot them here and then store them for winter.

    Still searching for online vendors as the big box stores just don't last more than 1 season here. I know about Van Englen but if you know of other reliable ones, let me know.

    Julia

  • 15 years ago

    I mail order my spring bulbs like daffs and tulips from Scheepers and Brent and Beckies. I would recommend dropping Van Engelen and switch to Scheepers.