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Grafting in September

18 years ago

I had a chance to get scion wood from a pinus strobus broom. It was on the campus of a large facility and the only way to get it was when the tree guys were there.

I know that this is not the best time. But I am willing to try. I also got the seeds from the cones and will follow the instructions provided by Dax to cold stratify and plant in the spring. (Thanks Dax)

The outside temps are in the 50's at night and 70's during the day. I have them outside in the shade. Tented under some thin plastic to help keep them moist.

I have another group in my Greeen House sunk in bed of perlite and peat up over the graft. Also tented.

I did not want to turn down the scion wood, so I will give it a try. If there is any other things I could try, please let me know. If it does not work, I at least have the seeds.

Thanks

Mike

Comments (6)

  • 18 years ago

    This won't be of any help but maybe a little re-insurance that it is possible to graft right now. I know of a person in Poland who grafts in fall. I never heard his process but apparently this is the only time of the year he grafts. I was sort of surprised to hear this.

    It was a grapevine email I was a part of. I don't even know the guy or anything else. Just go for it. I'll see if I can scrape up any information.

    Dax

  • 18 years ago

    I was told that grafting this time of year is "most-likely" being done in cold frames. Which makes sense... to me as well.

    They call it cold-grafting I believe. Some guys even graft in the dead of winter on understocks that are frozen and toss them into the garage and simply wait until, spring.

    That's pretty much the story.

    In the south at this time of year I was told that Taxodium and Metasequoia are budded. Other than conifers, right now you can graft, ginkgo, dogwood, sciadopity's and the Japanese maples.

    That's all I got for ya.

    Later on,

    Dax

  • 18 years ago

    try some..

    and then try putting some in the fridge for 2 months.. and getting closer to the right time.. how to do that i do not know ...

    and find out who does grafting for hire ... dax ought to know... and call them .... and see what they recommend... is it dennis dodge?????

    who has the email graftforyou???? i might have an old email.. if you cant find it elsewhere .. google below.. Bethlehem nursery .... they have a website.. find it.... CALL THEM.. i wouldnt leave it to email ...

    and if you have extras down the line.. let me know.... lol

    ken

    Here is a link that might be useful: link

  • 18 years ago

    I have grafted Pinus Strobus in September with great results BUT the problem is the door starts to close with the loss of your heat at the end of September .You can graft the pines and put them in a clear plastic bag if you dont have a propagation house . Put them in light but not full sun.Open once in a while to let a little fresh air in and watch for fungus .In 4 to 6 weeks they should be caloused up .Now here is another problem . You have to get them to stay dormant for a few months as if they were outside .
    If they were grafted like the first of September all you would have to do is put them outside for the winter ( with a little protection of some kind ) and in the spring you should have Pinus grafts. If you grafted them the first of October they will be caloused in 4 weeks and I would put them outside with winter protection and hope for the best . They must have a few months dormancy so you must keep them from breaking for a while . If not you will have to baby sit the grafts all winter . As another person said you can also stick a few in the crisper in a plastic bag with a small wad of damp but not wet paper towel . Dont wrap the scions in paper .

    Hope this helps.

    Any other questions E mail me at graftforyou@aol.com

    DENDO
    Bethlehem Nursery

  • 18 years ago

    THANKS
    Right know most of the grafts are outside.( Temps is PA 65 day 45 night) - I put a few in my greenhouse. In the GH I have a big bin filled with perlite , the grafts are burried up to their graft union. The bin is covered (tent) with plastic. I also have a small huumidifier going. Out side they are in the shade, also under some plastic, but still getting lots of air.
    I made a small cold frame beside my greenhouse that I use for my 1st year grafts. I can place them in the cold frame during the winter.


    Thanks for your help
    Maybe will see you at the NE Conf.
    Mike

  • 18 years ago

    Hi Mike ,Watch the humidifier . Pines dont need a lot of moisture . You may breed fungus problems .

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